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Turtleboy567 #1 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 15:49

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Recently I've been grinding to try and get my 279e through this grind I have had to reset most of my missions at least once because of arty or an HE spamming player which as we know is not very fun. Arty only does one thing, ruin the game for other people. What makes it so dynamic that it only shoots one tank the entire time, with a 40 second reload and a 15-20 second stun. The best part that tank that it is shooting isnt camping or slowing the game down, no. Its a tank on the frontline or a player trying to make a game winning move. Now having 3 arty per game is just way too much, It should be limited to 1 not 3 since the majority of say tier 8+ are 3 arty games. Then the HE spam IMO its only in the game for 2 reasons. The first being getting low HP kills on heavy armored tanks or arty. The second is for bad players to make them feel good about doing 300dmg without having to learn weak spots. 

 

Then off topic how in the world do I do this stupid mission Union-7 Is there anyone there? Like come on WG 3 internal modules or crew members 3 games in a row? What BS is this? Complete RNG, I have tried with SU-14-2, 268 VER 2, OBJ705A, 907, 430U. most of which do have deadeye as a crew perk. I do aim for crew spots/module spots. 



drgnrdr6 #2 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:08

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oh my now arty is to blame for your inability to play arty safe boo hoo.

Learn to play arty safe or better yet learn to play with the arty on your 

team. When I am playing my arty I shoot where I am needed and I

actively hunt for the other teams arty to stop them from getting my team

mates. Try the american arty or german they do really well on modules.



_Tsavo_ #3 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:11

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View Postdrgnrdr6, on Dec 03 2020 - 10:08, said:

oh my now arty is to blame for your inability to play arty safe boo hoo.

Learn to play arty safe or better yet learn to play with the arty on your 

team. When I am playing my arty I shoot where I am needed and I

actively hunt for the other teams arty to stop them from getting my team

mates. Try the american arty or german they do really well on modules.

 

There is no arty safe in this game, unless there's no arty. 



Turtleboy567 #4 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:12

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View Postdrgnrdr6, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:08, said:

oh my now arty is to blame for your inability to play arty safe boo hoo.

Learn to play arty safe or better yet learn to play with the arty on your 

team. When I am playing my arty I shoot where I am needed and I

actively hunt for the other teams arty to stop them from getting my team

mates. Try the american arty or german they do really well on modules.

Right so sit in the back in a bush camping, making the game less dynamic. 



Koala_In_The_Rain #5 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:18

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Dec 03 2020 - 08:11, said:

 

There is no arty safe in this game, unless there's no arty. 

 

Sounds like a plan?  :hiding:



NateRocko #6 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:19

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View PostTurtleboy567, on Dec 03 2020 - 10:12, said:

Right so sit in the back in a bush camping, making the game less dynamic. 

Remember, arty prevents camping.



drgnrdr6 #7 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:44

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:11, said:

 

There is no arty safe in this game, unless there's no arty. 

 

not going to get into an arguement with you but there are arty sae ways to play.

REMEMBER:   

IMPROVISE

ADAPT

OVERCOME

 

 

View PostTurtleboy567, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:12, said:

Right so sit in the back in a bush camping, making the game less dynamic. 

How is one 2 or 3 vehicles making a game less dynamic where the wheelies clown cars or mario cart what ever you want to call them is screwing it up more.

you have a hard shell turtle crawl in it and hide.



Treeburst #8 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 16:52

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View Postdrgnrdr6, on Dec 03 2020 - 10:44, said:

 

not going to get into an arguement with you but there are arty sae ways to play.

REMEMBER:   

IMPROVISE

ADAPT

OVERCOME

 

 

How is one 2 or 3 vehicles making a game less dynamic where the wheelies clown cars or mario cart what ever you want to call them is screwing it up more.

you have a hard shell turtle crawl in it and hide.


Maybe you could share some tips for the rest of us? Clearly you have found some secret to achieve so much success in the game. 



JakeTheMystic #9 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 17:27

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Arty exists only to balance op tanks. 

That said, there would be no op tanks if WG learned to balance them to begin with. 

Koala_In_The_Rain #10 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 17:31

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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Dec 03 2020 - 09:27, said:

Arty exists only to balance op tanks. 

That said, there would be no op tanks if WG learned to balance them to begin with. 

 

But if OP tanks are so awesome, why isn't everyone just driving those and nothing else?



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View PostTao_Te_Hobbit, on Dec 03 2020 - 11:31, said:

 

But if OP tanks are so awesome, why isn't everyone just driving those and nothing else?

 

Watch clan wars and advances.



Kharah_reppinNLD #12 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 17:51

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View PostNateRocko, on Dec 03 2020 - 17:19, said:

Remember, arty prevents encourages camping.

 

Fixed it for you.



Koala_In_The_Rain #13 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 17:52

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View PostDigital_Malamute, on Dec 03 2020 - 09:35, said:

 

Watch clan wars and advances.

 

We're not talking about clan wars and advances here.  We're talking about randoms.

 

Well, I was.  Can't say for sure about the rest of the commentariat.

 

But, for those members who need greater specificity in their questions, "If some tanks are so awesome and OP, why isn't everybody driving them during random pub matches?  Why even bother with 'lesser, underpowered' vehicles?"



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View PostTao_Te_Hobbit, on Dec 03 2020 - 11:52, said:

 

We're not talking about clan wars and advances here.  We're talking about randoms.

 

Well, I was.  Can't say for sure about the rest of the commentariat.

 

But, for those members who need greater specificity in their questions, "If some tanks are so awesome and OP, why isn't everybody driving them during random pub matches?  Why even bother with 'lesser, underpowered' vehicles?"


Well there are a few reasons I can think of.

 

1) Playing a tank because they enjoy it, or think they might enjoy it.

2) Playing a tank to practice using it for ranked battles.

3) Playing a tank to try to 3-mark it.



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View PostTao_Te_Hobbit, on Dec 03 2020 - 12:52, said:

 commentariat.

 

specificity

 

plus one for the $5 word

plus ANOTHER ONE for the $3.50 word (oh darn, i can only plus one)



Reichmonk #16 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 18:14

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View PostJakeTheMystic, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:27, said:

That said, there would be no op tanks if WG learned to balance them to begin with. 

 

No disrespect meant. Do you honestly think that is it actually possible to balance out 500 tanks, all of which have completely different stats (aim, speed, alpha, turning, armor, etc)? I think that is it not possible, so I just deal with it. Adopt and overcome.



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View PostTao_Te_Hobbit, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:52, said:

 

We're not talking about clan wars and advances here.  We're talking about randoms.

 

Well, I was.  Can't say for sure about the rest of the commentariat.

 

But, for those members who need greater specificity in their questions, "If some tanks are so awesome and OP, why isn't everybody driving them during random pub matches?  Why even bother with 'lesser, underpowered' vehicles?"

It's boring to play OP tanks in Radnoms.



JakeTheMystic #18 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 19:02

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View PostReichmonk, on Dec 03 2020 - 08:14, said:

 

No disrespect meant. Do you honestly think that is it actually possible to balance out 500 tanks, all of which have completely different stats (aim, speed, alpha, turning, armor, etc)? I think that is it not possible, so I just deal with it. Adopt and overcome.

They're already removed the majority of low tier vehicles to "make the choice easier for new players" but in turn just made it so they don't have to worry about balancing any of them if they disappear from the tech tree. If they at least focused on tier 10 for competitive play the game would be much more enjoyable than the chieftain spam meta that it is. At least when it was 277/5a/907 there was some diversity, even more so if we had the leopard buffs earlier and remove the ebr from the equation, thinks would be a lot more interesting. 
 

View PostTao_Te_Hobbit, on Dec 03 2020 - 07:31, said:

 

But if OP tanks are so awesome, why isn't everyone just driving those and nothing else?

 

Kinda an ignorant way to think about it. If yachts are so cool, why doesn't everyone own one? If PC is so good, then why didn't they make a PC 2? 

>Not everyone owns every op tank

>People grind other lines for fun

>Curb stomping pubbies in op tanks isn't the only reason people play the game

>Something something something

>There are always going to be "great" tanks at every tier, but there shouldn't be any outside the deviation in terms of performance. Win rate isn't the only measurement of performance, but that's the only thing WG knows how to read. 

 



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View Postdrgnrdr6, on Dec 03 2020 - 16:08, said:

oh my now arty is to blame for your inability to play arty safe boo hoo.

Learn to play arty safe or better yet learn to play with the arty on your 

team. When I am playing my arty I shoot where I am needed and I

actively hunt for the other teams arty to stop them from getting my team

mates. Try the american arty or german they do really well on modules.

 

I read this and by the end of the first sentence I thought this guy or gal doesn't know what they are talking about, besides being needlessly toxic. Then reading on I realized they were an arty player and it all became self-servingly clear.



Cowcat137 #20 Posted Dec 03 2020 - 19:47

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Umm, when playing arty and an Object 279 appears, it's usually my own team demanding we focus it.





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