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How Should WG Respond to their Policy that Disadvantages NA Server Players in Performance for Reward Calculations?

  1. Fix the issue to eliminate the hidden disadvantage to NA server players in Performance for Reward calculations. (13 votes [28.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.89%

  2. Publicly notify NA Server players that they are being disadvantaged in Performance for Reward calculations. (4 votes [8.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.89%

  3. Do Nothing. Nothing at all. (28 votes [62.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 62.22%

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DoomSquatch #1 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:25

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NA Server players are being disadvantaged by a WG policy on another server that affects performance for reward calculations on the NA server. 

 

This is happening behind a curtain from the perspective of any NA server player who does not play the other server, but NA server players are being impacted by it from behind that curtain.  WG has a responsibility to either fix the issue, or to publicly announce to NA Server players that the policy is in effect and to notify them of the consequences it has for them with regard to performance for reward calculations.

 

On the other server teams are being filled with bots due to low population usage on that server.  The performance stats from these bot-heavy battles, however, are being incorporated into Ace Mastery calculations for the NA server and potentially other performance for reward calculations in the game.

 

When the same thing was discovered to be going on with the use of bots in Proving Grounds battles WG fixed it in the next update.

 

I brought this to WG's attention in a previous ticket and an administrator representing the other server basically told me that they do not plan to change it unless there is public support for the change.  This message makes it public and gives you the opportunity to express your support.

 

If WG will not fix the issue, I therefore submit that WG has a responsibility to publicly announce to NA Server players that the policy is in effect and to notify them of the consequences it has for them with regard to performance for reward calculations.


Edited by DoomSquatch, Jan 14 2021 - 18:28.


Kliphie #2 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:33

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There is only one server in the Americas (NA).  It is serviced by two clusters, one in Chicago (USC) and one in Sao Paulo (SA.)  Players on NA have access to both clusters without restriction.  

 

The bots affecting stats sucks but NA players are not disadvantaged.



Koala_In_The_Rain #3 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:36

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View PostKliphie, on Jan 14 2021 - 10:33, said:

T... but NA players are not disadvantaged.

 

Many of them are, however, severely challenged.  In SO many ways.

 

:hiding:



SlappedbyRommel #4 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:38

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Stupid question how do you spot a WH bot?

Prof_Nutbutter #5 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:42

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View PostSlappedbyRommel, on Jan 14 2021 - 18:38, said:

Stupid question how do you spot a WH bot?

Voight-Kampff test



Qualm #6 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 18:56

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On a very long list of things I would like Wargaming to spend administrative and programmer time on, this "issue" would appear very close to the very bottom.  Or maybe not appear at all.

 

This is about you having difficulty Ace-ing tier 5 and under tanks.  A difficulty which I care almost absolutely nothing about.  I have 3 solutions for you:

 

1.  Get better.

2.  Play on SA server and farm bots for your Aces.

3.  Stop caring so much about such things as Aces on low tier tanks. 


Edited by Qualm, Jan 14 2021 - 18:59.


GeorgePreddy #7 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:09

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View PostKoala_In_The_Rain, on Jan 14 2021 - 14:36, said:

 

Many of them are, however, severely challenged.  In SO many ways.

 

:hiding:

 

I see what you did there... and I approve.          :B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Stoned_Vet #8 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:14

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View PostKoala_In_The_Rain, on Jan 14 2021 - 11:36, said:

 

Many of them are, however, severely challenged.  In SO many ways.

 

:hiding:

 

You just stated what a lot of us are thinking deep down inside :P



DrWho_ #9 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:31

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View PostQualm, on Jan 14 2021 - 18:56, said:

On a very long list of things I would like Wargaming to spend administrative and programmer time on, this "issue" would appear very close to the very bottom.  Or maybe not appear at all.

 

This is about you having difficulty Ace-ing tier 5 and under tanks.  A difficulty which I care almost absolutely nothing about.  I have 3 solutions for you:

 

1.  Get better.

2.  Play on SA server and farm bots for your Aces.

3.  Stop caring so much about such things as Aces on low tier tanks. 

 

Agree almost 100%. It is however not near the bottom, it *is* the bottom of the list



ArtyTouchedMyNoNoPlace #10 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:33

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how many daily threads is op going to post on this topic since op cant earn pixel medals?

DrWho_ #11 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:42

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View PostDoomSquatch, on Jan 14 2021 - 18:25, said:

NA Server players are being disadvantaged by a WG policy on another server that affects performance for reward calculations on the NA server. 

 

This is happening behind a curtain from the perspective of any NA server player who does not play the other server, but NA server players are being impacted by it from behind that curtain.  WG has a responsibility to either fix the issue, or to publicly announce to NA Server players that the policy is in effect and to notify them of the consequences it has for them with regard to performance for reward calculations.

 

On the other server teams are being filled with bots due to low population usage on that server.  The performance stats from these bot-heavy battles, however, are being incorporated into Ace Mastery calculations for the NA server and potentially other performance for reward calculations in the game.

 

When the same thing was discovered to be going on with the use of bots in Proving Grounds battles WG fixed it in the next update.

 

I brought this to WG's attention in a previous ticket and an administrator representing the other server basically told me that they do not plan to change it unless there is public support for the change.  This message makes it public and gives you the opportunity to express your support.

 

If WG will not fix the issue, I therefore submit that WG has a responsibility to publicly announce to NA Server players that the policy is in effect and to notify them of the consequences it has for them with regard to performance for reward calculations.

 

I had a quick look at your stats since this seems to be such a big issue for you and I'm left with only one question, do you know what irony is ?



PumpkinHead286 #12 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 19:55

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who cares dead game we are dead dead dead dead 

RamaLamaDingDong1 #13 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:08

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Each an every time I read a new conspiracy theory which abound in plenty anymore I find the level of absurdity is being topped everyday. What happened to the good old days where Kennedy and landing on the Moon were the only ones discussed.

Rankus5150 #14 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:13

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Please whine more because you cant get a shiny ace while seal clubbing 

DoomSquatch #15 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:20

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View PostKliphie, on Jan 14 2021 - 17:33, said:

There is only one server in the Americas (NA).  It is serviced by two clusters, one in Chicago (USC) and one in Sao Paulo (SA.)  Players on NA have access to both clusters without restriction.  

 

The bots affecting stats sucks but NA players are not disadvantaged.

 

If results achieved against bots are included in calculations along with those against teams with no bots, how is there no disadvantage?



DoomSquatch #16 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:21

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View PostQualm, on Jan 14 2021 - 17:56, said:

On a very long list of things I would like Wargaming to spend administrative and programmer time on, this "issue" would appear very close to the very bottom.  Or maybe not appear at all.

 

This is about you having difficulty Ace-ing tier 5 and under tanks.  A difficulty which I care almost absolutely nothing about.  I have 3 solutions for you:

 

1.  Get better.

2.  Play on SA server and farm bots for your Aces.

3.  Stop caring so much about such things as Aces on low tier tanks. 

 

It's not about me.  It's the principal of the thing. 

 

Can you not see that?



DoomSquatch #17 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:22

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View PostDrWho_, on Jan 14 2021 - 18:42, said:

 

I had a quick look at your stats since this seems to be such a big issue for you and I'm left with only one question, do you know what irony is ?

 

It's not about me.  It is the principal of the thing.

 

I'll be fine either way.  Some others, perhaps not.


Edited by DoomSquatch, Jan 14 2021 - 20:22.


DoomSquatch #18 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:25

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View PostRamaLamaDingDong1, on Jan 14 2021 - 19:08, said:

Each an every time I read a new conspiracy theory which abound in plenty anymore I find the level of absurdity is being topped everyday. What happened to the good old days where Kennedy and landing on the Moon were the only ones discussed.

 

Do you not see the absurdity of a 26 battle reroll replying in this manner?



DrWho_ #19 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:54

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View PostDoomSquatch, on Jan 14 2021 - 20:22, said:

 

It's not about me.  It is the principal of the thing.

 

 

I have my doubts ...... but of course I could be mistaken and a player with 4700+ battles at tier 1 may actually care about other players



Koala_In_The_Rain #20 Posted Jan 14 2021 - 20:58

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View PostArtyTouchedMyNoNoPlace, on Jan 14 2021 - 11:33, said:

how many daily threads is op going to post on this topic since op cant earn pixel medals?

 

Kinda sad that imaginary ones can often take more work than the real ones.

 

e.g. the Froot Loops...  :teethhappy:






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