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Griffon458 #1 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 05:46

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For people who dont know what XVM is you are clueless about exactly what is going on and the anonomizer system to hide your stats isnt / wasnt ever intended to be a gift to players that think they were xvm targeted  (they were but that is a smokescreen) it was a ploy by wargaming to deny that the MM system picks teams to win and teams to lose before the battle is even started

 

it loads the team on one side with good players and team on other with inexperienced or simply BAD players and then throughout the battle it uses RNG to manipulate the out come

 

ever been in a battle and none of your well aimed carefully fired shots hit the target at modest ranges with an accurate gun and well within the pen parameters of the rounds you are using ? and opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?

same goes for arty you can have battle after battle where the rng is so bad you don't even get to stun the target let alone damage it .. and then you have these magical battles where every shot is a direct hit ? thats not you so much as the MM system determining your team gets the win.



Griffon458 #2 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 05:51

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oh and for those of you that say a team with all blue and greens got wiped out by a team of red and orange players .. your right it occasionally once in a purple polka dot moon and it in itself is more proof that RNG can determine which side wins as well because in WOT if wargaming decrees you aint gonna hit jack then guess what ? there isn't anything you can do about it besides trying to ram kill an enemy and even then it determines how much damage you do and you take

 

for gods sake people this is not tin foil hat territory they have an actual patent in the us patent office that says all this you just gotta sit down and read it and have an iq beyond 10 to understand all the legal jargon



Edgy_ #3 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 06:01

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you have 1700 battles, you have no idea on anything in this game

_Hector__ #4 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 06:04

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Always amazing how hard people think and come up with these things when they could of simply looked up to how it actually works instead of wasting their time and their remaining 3 neurons 

Floppy__ #5 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 06:11

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if you put this much brain power into playing the game then maybe youd win more 

Draschel #6 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 06:17

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View PostEdgy_, on Feb 22 2021 - 06:01, said:

you have 1700 battles, you have no idea on anything in this game

 

He knows how to farm SA server bots very well. But if he steps outside of tier 5,  well  we'll see if he ever does.

It is amazing people think like this still, in 2021.

 



Projectile_Misfired #7 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 06:32

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View PostGriffon458, on Feb 22 2021 - 04:46, said:

For people who dont know what XVM is you are clueless about exactly what is going on and the anonomizer system to hide your stats isnt / wasnt ever intended to be a gift to players that think they were xvm targeted  (they were but that is a smokescreen) it was a ploy by wargaming to deny that the MM system picks teams to win and teams to lose before the battle is even started

it loads the team on one side with good players and team on other with inexperienced or simply BAD players and then throughout the battle it uses RNG to manipulate the out come

ever been in a battle and none of your well aimed carefully fired shots hit the target at modest ranges with an accurate gun and well within the pen parameters of the rounds you are using ? and opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?

same goes for arty you can have battle after battle where the rng is so bad you don't even get to stun the target let alone damage it .. and then you have these magical battles where every shot is a direct hit ? thats not you so much as the MM system determining your team gets the win.

If MM is putting good players on one team and bad players on the other, why does it need to use RNG to "manipulate" the outcome? Hasn't MM already "manipulated" it just by who it puts on each team?



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View PostProjectile_Misfired, on Feb 22 2021 - 06:32, said:

If MM is putting good players on one team and bad players on the other, why does it need to use RNG to "manipulate" the outcome? Hasn't MM already "manipulated" it just by who it puts on each team?

 

RNG manipulation to overturn MM manipulation What was the point of the MM manipulation then right? :P LOL What will they come up with next? 



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I feel like I almost had a stroke trying to understand these posts, not to mention how absolutely wrong they are from a logical perspective. Shame you put so much energy into tinfoil hat conspiracy theories instead of actually learning game mechanics and improving but I guess not everyone has the gift of a normally functional brain.

ChukWow #10 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 08:33

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@OP I remember you from a battle today and yes your team was bad but it was not pre determined as you would say I played 39 battles today of which I had to carry at least 12 battles, 18 wins also where the team carried me most times people don't understand positioning and how to farm damages, which farming damages for the most part is a by product in which gives your team a better chance to win in the end do your part and carry if you cant be that person then hold your hp and help your team, I have witnessed today slot of wins which we snatched up from the jaws of what could have been a defeat calm down and play your tank be aware if it's a loss then notice it and sit back and farm damages

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View PostProjectile_Misfired, on Feb 21 2021 - 21:32, said:

If MM is putting good players on one team and bad players on the other, why does it need to use RNG to "manipulate" the outcome? Hasn't MM already "manipulated" it just by who it puts on each team?

Yes that mostly correct  as this op topics & posts too and we know thsee good players are one probably going call this non sense...other bs they come up with.. Some of these good players just want keep it that way and preserve they lame high stats..mastery..etc..



Firemoth #12 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 09:35

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if you take this up with your local UN representative, im sure that the UN can launch a special investigation into it, leading into putting all the leaders of WG up for trial on war crimes.

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View PostGriffon458, on Feb 22 2021 - 05:46, said:

For people who dont know what XVM is you are clueless about exactly what is going on and the anonomizer system to hide your stats isnt / wasnt ever intended to be a gift to players that think they were xvm targeted  (they were but that is a smokescreen) it was a ploy by wargaming to deny that the MM system picks teams to win and teams to lose before the battle is even started

 

it loads the team on one side with good players and team on other with inexperienced or simply BAD players and then throughout the battle it uses RNG to manipulate the out come

 

ever been in a battle and none of your well aimed carefully fired shots hit the target at modest ranges with an accurate gun and well within the pen parameters of the rounds you are using ? and opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?

same goes for arty you can have battle after battle where the rng is so bad you don't even get to stun the target let alone damage it .. and then you have these magical battles where every shot is a direct hit ? thats not you so much as the MM system determining your team gets the win.

 

If you spent a fraction of the time trying to learn this game as you do writing up these wild rants, you might actually be good.



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View PostGriffon458, on Feb 21 2021 - 23:51, said:

for gods sake people this is not tin foil hat territory they have an actual patent in the us patent office that says all this you just gotta sit down and read it and have an iq beyond 10 to understand all the legal jargon

Except it is.   And the patent only mentions battle tiers.

 

Try again? 



Saffron_Blaze #15 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 11:27

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Feb 22 2021 - 11:09, said:

 And the patent only mentions battle tiers.

 

Try again? 

 

The patent explicitly discusses using battle tiers to manage the gaming experience of players at the level of individual accounts.



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View PostGriffon458, on Feb 21 2021 - 23:46, said:

For people who dont know what XVM is you are clueless about exactly what is going on and the anonomizer system to hide your stats isnt / wasnt ever intended to be a gift to players that think they were xvm targeted  (they were but that is a smokescreen) it was a ploy by wargaming to deny that the MM system picks teams to win and teams to lose before the battle is even started

 

it loads the team on one side with good players and team on other with inexperienced or simply BAD players and then throughout the battle it uses RNG to manipulate the out come

 

ever been in a battle and none of your well aimed carefully fired shots hit the target at modest ranges with an accurate gun and well within the pen parameters of the rounds you are using ? and opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?

same goes for arty you can have battle after battle where the rng is so bad you don't even get to stun the target let alone damage it .. and then you have these magical battles where every shot is a direct hit ? thats not you so much as the MM system determining your team gets the win.

 

In order for WG to do that, they'd have to have some sort of reason or motive.  They'd be exposing the business to significant risk if they were rigging matches and that got leaked.  The only way any business  would accept that level of risk is if there is a significant - usually monetary - benefit.  So, tell me, what possible monetary benefit does WG enjoy by "Rigging" matches? 

 

I'm not a great player, I consider myself 'average' most days, and then an even mix of 'pretty good' and 'Sucktacular'.

 

It has never crossed my mind that a match had been rigged. 

 

 

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"opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?"

 

This sounds epic, post the replay. 

 

 



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View PostGriffon458, on Feb 22 2021 - 05:46, said:

For people who dont know what XVM is you are clueless about exactly what is going on and the anonomizer system to hide your stats isnt / wasnt ever intended to be a gift to players that think they were xvm targeted  (they were but that is a smokescreen) it was a ploy by wargaming to deny that the MM system picks teams to win and teams to lose before the battle is even started

 

it loads the team on one side with good players and team on other with inexperienced or simply BAD players and then throughout the battle it uses RNG to manipulate the out come

 

ever been in a battle and none of your well aimed carefully fired shots hit the target at modest ranges with an accurate gun and well within the pen parameters of the rounds you are using ? and opposing team light tanks barrels straight at you full throttle bouncing along on rocky terrain and hits a bump and flips end over end and shoots you with a regular ap round at the thickest part of your hull and not only pens but wipes out a module and to top it off after rolling 5 times takes zero damage and wanders off into the sunset ?

same goes for arty you can have battle after battle where the rng is so bad you don't even get to stun the target let alone damage it .. and then you have these magical battles where every shot is a direct hit ? thats not you so much as the MM system determining your team gets the win.

 

You have 1,700 battles since 2012. 

 

Nobody cares what you think, literally.  



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View PostFiremoth, on Feb 22 2021 - 04:35, said:

if you take this up with your local UN representative, im sure that the UN can launch a special investigation into it, leading into putting all the leaders of WG up for trial on war crimes.

 

It's the UN that needs to be on trial...



garbage_rigged_MM #19 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 13:13

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Blatantly, obviously rigged game. Anyone with at least 3 active brain cells can easily see this fact. Russians are great at rigging things, in case you haven't noticed.

drgnrdr6 #20 Posted Feb 22 2021 - 13:20

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we best listen to the OP he has less than 200 games per year since making his account.

So he must have used ultra rare extreme usage tin foil for his hat so he has to be right.






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