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crabman #21 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 19:22

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View Postdudeguy13, on Oct 13 2011 - 00:49, said:

if your offspring doesnt want them ill take them :D. how much does the average quality sherman/pershing/abrams etc. for beginners cost

You can expect to spend about 35-50 on a model kit. That's just on the kit though, you need tools and glue to assemble it. You don't have to paint it, but most kits usually come in grey plastic.

Are you familiar with Gundam? It's a Japanese sci-fi anime featuring giant robots. It's not a tank, but I think it's a great way to get started on modeling, even if you're not interested in Gundam. They have some very simple kits, they are fully colored, they don't require glue, have easy to follow instructions, are pretty inexpensive - you can get a small one for about $15 and they look great when finished, and most importantly they give you a pretty good idea on what the hobby is about. I'd recommend finding a 1/144 High Grade Gundam. Just one you think looks cool and fits the budget to begin with.

Starting off you can get away with using a pair of nail clippers, a nail file, the tank kits I've built require glue or plastic cement. The Gundam kits do not. What's nice about not using glue is that even if you make a mistake, it's not especially difficult to repair it. Glue is of course much more permanent.

The second advantage that Gundams have is that they are fully colored. Most, if not all of the tank models kits come in neutral tones, like grey and you really need to paint them before they'll look nice. That's where a lot of the expense comes in. A half ounce bottle of paint can cost between 3-5 dollars, the ones I like to use are Gunze Mr. Color paints which costs about 3.50 for a 10ml bottle. That might not seem too bad, but generally you need 4 or 5 colors to color your tank well, especially if you decide to camouflage it. You factor in a couple of brushes and all of a sudden your 30 dollar model costs you about 70 for all the supplies you need.

It's an awesome hobby and I love it. It's also very rewarding having something there that you breathed life into. It's a very fulfilling hobby, but it can get expensive money wise.

theshiyal #22 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 20:02

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Ok Chieftain, I love your writings.  Thanks for a great read.  You're like my alter ego or something.  Tanks, Trains, Models, etc. etc.  Next you'll say you play WoT whenever possible or something like that.

Thanks again for your service  :Smile_honoring:

stickjock #23 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 20:22

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Love the models... that's something I've been wanting to get back into... it's been literally years since I've assembled a model of anything... ugh...

Only problem where I live, none of the so called "hobby" shops in town have jack and or doodley...

Might have to break down and order some stuff online to get my fix...

anglomanii #24 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 23:02

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i am not alone!

well done Chieftain, good to see there are more of us out there. i recently started on flames of war, after far too may years of 40k. i figure it was time to grow up (lol).

ForcestormX #25 Posted Oct 14 2011 - 01:30

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Your work is pretty awesome.

hoggie_san #26 Posted Oct 14 2011 - 02:28

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Maybe slightly off topic, here in South Georgia we had a guest. Maybe of some military history value.
South Georgians heard some war stories from a true American hero who served from World War Two through the Vietnam War.
Albin Irzyk spoke to the Tifton Rotary Club Wednesday. He retired from the Army as a brigadier general after 31 years of service.
During World War Two, he fought five campaigns as a tank commander under General Patton's command.
Irzyk says that Patton was one of a kind.
"During the war, he was part man, part actor," Irzyk said. "As I mentioned today, he was the greatest field commander our country has ever had and the greatest pure warrior.
Ever since he was a little boy, he wanted to be a soldier."
After his speech, Irzyk had a tank fire to honor past and current troops. He says he is not a hero. He was just doing his job.

If you want to see some short clips of a tank firing (Not old footage,current with vintage tanks) you can go WALB.com. Search for Albin Irzyk. Wish I could have gone to see him, not many of these guys left.

dragonbud20 #27 Posted Oct 14 2011 - 15:12

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id have to say there's a half built model somewhere in my house but as to young blood a lot of younger people are getting into RC planes but not modeling as much i myself fly RC

Zipzag #28 Posted Oct 16 2011 - 15:55

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Wow you put all those together Wow , must have taken alot of skill to do that . Do you use the instructions or after so many years you know where it all goes ?  Ya Ive fixed tanks and APC's . Now i just fix trucks and cars . I do Heavy collision and mechanical repair . I personly wouldnt need the instructions .I would acually know where it all goes Having worked the real one's . I think they look great btw . nice job . love the camo work !

SpectreHD #29 Posted Oct 29 2011 - 14:42

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Ooh. Just went down to the local hobby store and saw this Tamiya models for a KV-1 and M51 Super Sherman for AUD$890! But these models have die cast hull, independent suspension, gearboxes, pre-made tracks and what not. Bought a remote control M1A2 Abrams for $165 to tide me over since because I just moved and cannot play WoT on mobile broadband.

At the moment, the most I do at the moment in terms of modelling is just putting together Gundam models. These are high quality snap fit kits that sport plenty of features when built like being fully poseable. The top of the line ones have hatches that can open, fully poseable fingers and lights.

These are the some of the ones I have at the moment.

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ramp4ge #30 Posted Nov 02 2011 - 02:13

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Are all your models static? Or have you ventured into the radio controlled zone?

Quite a lot of nice 1/16th scale tanks out there.

VirgilHilts #31 Posted Nov 02 2011 - 03:16

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View PostTrain_Fan, on Oct 13 2011 - 16:26, said:

Yay train. :P

Well, MoTown is a bit far for me. If only they can hold it in Scranton for once.

Anywho, for us who cannot attend, are we allowed to enter in your contest online? And if so, are buildings allowed?
Just wondering.


There used to be a model company in Scranton PA, I used to buy supplies from them, it was long before the days of computers in every home, and Internet connections. I used to save up, send off for the catalog, save up while waiting for it, and then buy a ton of stuff. I can't remember the name of it now. They even had slot car supplies, the 1/24 scale stuff, including the materials to build tracks from scratch. There was a local hobby shop that had a 12 lane high banked 1/24 scale oval track we used to race on.

There was even a toy store that an old man ran by himself, he would open up on Christmas day, and have stuff on sale, plus a supply of things he gave away, for kids who got presents that weren't complete. I got a bunch of Hot Wheels stuff one year, to go with what I already had. My older brother and I went off the deep end, we went to that old man's store on Christmas day after we opened presents, and spent maybe $30, a lot of money back then. What we got barely fit in the back seat of the car. It took the rest of the day and most of the night to put it all together. That old man smiled all day, not about the money. I bet he gave away half as much as he sold. We used to kid around and tell people he was really Santa Claus in disguise. Maybe he was.


Alas, that was some 35-40 years ago (damn, that sounds like such a long time) all that stuff is long gone. The cars (mostly race cars), the planes (I had a bunch of Lockheed stuff, the P-38 in several versions, the F-104, the U-2, the SR-71) and even a few tanks. I have a few car kits in the top of the closet now.

The old Lionel 027 set is on shelves up at the place in Kentucky, with the 4 4'x8' sheets of plywood covered with tracks leaning against the wall in the garage, they haven't been touched since Dad got sick, and he's been gone near 7 years.

Deathcrew77 #32 Posted Feb 18 2012 - 16:59

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I run a hobby shop in Australia. Glad to see some support for the old fashion way of rest and relaxtion before computers. Too bad you're right on the money when you comment on the state of the industry!

UrghAvenger #33 Posted Mar 22 2012 - 04:51

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I went to that iHobby expo in Rosemont, Illinois back in October 2011. Had never heard of WoT before. I went there with my 7yr old son. There were 4 or so laptops lined up and we each tried a couple rounds of WoT. Each of us got a nice gift bag with a mouse pad, pen and a scale model tank with a code for a free tank and some gold.

Downloaded WoT the next day. Had to upgrade my PC's with new gfx cards. Bought $100 of gold on sale. Cured my 2 year World of Warcraft addiction (canceled WoW a month later).

Also, another booth introduced my son and I to Warhammer miniature painting. Bought small box of figures, but expensive. Mostly painting miniature plastic army guys (for practice) and little plastic zombies.

Sadly, I read an article that says that was the last iHobby expo in Chicago.

I haven't done any serious vehicle painting. Yours look excellent.

Allred7 #34 Posted May 18 2012 - 18:14

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I certainly enjoy Chieftain's writings, too.  As a fellow geezer, I appreciate being reminded how much I enjoyed modeling in earlier years.  I build several Formula One race car kits a few years back, but now, being a W.o.T. player, think I had better get myself down to the local model shop, and check out some tank models.

Thanks, Chieftain!   :Smile_Default:


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storm0545 #35 Posted May 18 2012 - 18:47

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UrghAvenger, on Mar 22 2012 - 04:51, said:

I went to that iHobby expo in Rosemont, Illinois back in October 2011. Had never heard of WoT before. I went there with my 7yr old son. There were 4 or so laptops lined up and we each tried a couple rounds of WoT. Each of us got a nice gift bag with a mouse pad, pen and a scale model tank with a code for a free tank and some gold.

Downloaded WoT the next day. Had to upgrade my PC's with new gfx cards. Bought $100 of gold on sale. Cured my 2 year World of Warcraft addiction (canceled WoW a month later).

Also, another booth introduced my son and I to Warhammer miniature painting. Bought small box of figures, but expensive. Mostly painting miniature plastic army guys (for practice) and little plastic zombies.

Sadly, I read an article that says that was the last iHobby expo in Chicago.

I haven't done any serious vehicle painting. Yours look excellent.

I've gone to the ihobby show every year for quite some time thanks to living in Rosemont. While I knew about WoT before hand and was extremly excited to see it gain some fame while there that happiness was overshadowed with the sadness that Rosemont will not be hosting it anymore I think the McCormick place has that honor now.  I've amassed quite a collection of models, though nothing as detailed both construction and painting wise as you guys mainly just plastic snap together models with engine blocks in them so they can drive around the room. Oh and as for 40k hehe I've got a box of minis my uncle and I painted and use to play against eachother when he strolls into town from business here and there lol.

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roadtoinfinity #36 Posted Jul 27 2012 - 15:18

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I got a RC Tiger (Heng Long) for my 12th birthday (bought it myself) last year (exact same age you got your model) it was what started me into this game and military things, still on my way to Tiger...

cheese_sdc #37 Posted Aug 23 2012 - 23:03

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Did you get a chance to wargame at the Heat of Battle Convention?

The_Chieftain #38 Posted Aug 23 2012 - 23:29

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No, too busy.

I did pick up the Hobby Boss M1070/M1000 kit a couple of weeks ago. Holy crap, that thing looks like it'll be awesome when I finally get around to building it in about fifteen years.

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Aug 23 2012 - 23:29, said:

No, too busy.

I did pick up the Hobby Boss M1070/M1000 kit a couple of weeks ago. Holy crap, that thing looks like it'll be awesome when I finally get around to building it in about fifteen years.
You mean this thing, i'm right?
http://www.magellanm...ducts/64947.jpg

Grendel61 #40 Posted Aug 25 2012 - 13:31

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I built that same Leopard model.  Great fun...but was more into model planes at the time.  Keep up the great articles Chieftan.  Nice to read articles NOT complaining about noobs, OP tanks and horrible maps for a change.




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