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Incoming! Supertest results lead to more changes for HE and SPG's.

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KRZYBooP #1 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:18

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Howdy Boom Jockeys!

 

 

The results of the HE and SPG Supertest can be found in the following link HERE. There is a lot of information to summarize for this forum post so it's best to check it out on our news article.

 

Goals for these changes were to (in my opinion) make tank classes feel like their role is maintained, make HE shells an actual viable option for all tanks, and stop the massive unintended side effects of the Shells.

 

The Supertest is starting today (18MAY) with changes to the following vehicles available from the first Common Test of Update 1.13.

 

These are the nine vehicles will go to the Supertest:

We will also test system changes to AP shell alpha damage for all SPGs, as well as certain improvements to particular vehicles. After being evaluated in the Supertest and adjusted accordingly, the suggested changes will most likely be added to the first Update 1.13 Common Test so everyone can check them.

 

Please note that these changes aren't final.

 

For more information on these changes click HERE.
 
 


Engineer777 #2 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:35

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View PostKRZYBooP, on May 18 2021 - 12:18, said:

The results of the HE and SPG Supertest can be found in the following link HERE. There is a lot of information to summarize for this forum post so it's best to check it out on our news article.

 

 You mean the results of the Sandbox have been analyzed and are heading to Supertest. After Supertest, they will go onto Common Test 1.13.

 


Edited by Engineer777, May 19 2021 - 20:14.


Noivy #3 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:46

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I honestly found the 1k damage rolls on a 430U from the type 4/5s gold derp gun to be disconcerting. Glad its being looked at further.

bad_73 #4 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:49

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What about the proposed changes to premium ammo???Or cant wg give up some money to improve the game and make it not wallet warrior orientated?

Engineer777 #5 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:50

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View PostNoivy, on May 18 2021 - 12:46, said:

I honestly found the 1k damage rolls on a 430U from the type 4/5s gold derp gun to be disconcerting. Glad its being looked at further.

The Type 4/5 are being BUFFED not nerfed.



Engineer777 #6 Posted May 18 2021 - 17:52

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View Postbad_73, on May 18 2021 - 12:49, said:

What about the proposed changes to premium ammo???Or cant wg give up some money to improve the game and make it not wallet warrior orientated?

 

Yes, I feel like the premium ammo changes were much more welcome and yet the HE changes are being implemented and the premium changes aren't.



TomatoSauceHero #7 Posted May 18 2021 - 18:07

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View Postbad_73, on May 18 2021 - 11:49, said:

What about the proposed changes to premium ammo???Or cant wg give up some money to improve the game and make it not wallet warrior orientated?

 

View PostEngineer777, on May 18 2021 - 11:52, said:

 

Yes, I feel like the premium ammo changes were much more welcome and yet the HE changes are being implemented and the premium changes aren't.

Agreed they milk enough money out the player base gold rounds are no longer needed and should just be removed. . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Edited by TomatoSauceHero, May 18 2021 - 18:13.


Kramah313 #8 Posted May 18 2021 - 18:15

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View PostEngineer777, on May 18 2021 - 10:52, said:

 

Yes, I feel like the premium ammo changes were much more welcome and yet the HE changes are being implemented and the premium changes aren't.


I agree. I think the reason for this is that if premium rounds do less damage then people would just use HE more. Thus, HE had to be nerfed first. That’s my theory anyways. I believe we will see the premium ammo changes brought back again once these HE ones go live. 



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View PostEngineer777, on May 18 2021 - 12:52, said:

 

Yes, I feel like the premium ammo changes were much more welcome and yet the HE changes are being implemented and the premium changes aren't.

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, they are going to test ( then implement ) HE changes FIRST, then do testing on Premium changes, which will be much more closely looked at in Minsk/Cyprus as it directly affects WG's bottom line, where HE changes do not.



GREENBASSTARD #10 Posted May 18 2021 - 19:41

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The warnings when an arty shell is fired and map reveal of location when arty fires IS A CHEAT FOR LAZY PLAYERS !! Someone has to say it!!! IT IS JUST CAVING IN TO A FEW WHINERS , someone has to say it, its just a CHEAT MOD PLAYERS USED,  now in game. 

scottie_ #11 Posted May 18 2021 - 20:04

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a lot of players talk about how these changes are all about pushing the free to play player into premium accounts.  I don't think that's the case, i think WG really is trying to make positive changes in the game, i don't know if they will be positive changed but i think they are trying. 

Think about this, if WG wanted to push free to play players away from HE, wouldn't WG just adjust the economy of HE shells?  i would be a lot less complicated and risky than what they are doing with the HE changes in the tanks right now.

 

 



Beorn_of_the_NorthernSea #12 Posted May 18 2021 - 20:06

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Stop. [edit]ing. with. my. KV-2!

Grampy #13 Posted May 18 2021 - 20:09

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The results of the HE & SPG supertest referenced only tier ten vehicles. Any results/info for those of us that don't play in the top tier?

ImYourFodder #14 Posted May 18 2021 - 20:09

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View PostBeorn_of_the_NorthernSea, on May 18 2021 - 13:06, said:

Stop. [edit]ing. with. my. KV-2!

If they screw ppl , then they ought to improve the reload time about 5 seconds . 



Beorn_of_the_NorthernSea #15 Posted May 18 2021 - 20:34

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View Postdocroberts, on May 18 2021 - 11:09, said:

If they screw ppl , then they ought to improve the reload time about 5 seconds . 

Fine with me.  My KV-2 is as fast as you can get it.  5 seconds faster would make me practically a regular tier 6 heavy



Mikosah #16 Posted May 18 2021 - 22:29

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To be clear, my position is that the HE changes are counterproductive. For heaven's sake, it would be awfully nice to have my HE shells actually explode when they hit something. Besides, generally trying to buff heavy armor is not a good end goal. The net effect will simply be a further emphasis on gold shells, which will in turn cause another wave of armor buffs to compensate, and the vicious cycle repeats again from there. In spite of its quirks, I'd honestly say that the best move to make now would be to leave the current HE alone. Needless changes don't create the impression that the dev team is being proactive, they create the impression that the dev team is just screwing around. If the major takeaway from the attached result write-up is that everything works and no significant changes occurred, then A- what was the point? And B- why then are these new balancing changes necessary? Not to mention the aesthetic problem that the new proposed system is basically creating three different versions of HE, with and without splash and with or without stun. I'm actually nostalgic for the old system where there was just one set of rules for all HE shells.

 

 



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with all the crap you are doing to arty, there is no reason not to let us platoon together like you let the wheelies do! give us a chance some of us can not move our fingers like the young cry babies! LET US PLATOON!!!!

Arphila #18 Posted May 18 2021 - 23:58

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Here's my feedback: No

dooner30 #19 Posted May 19 2021 - 00:16

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playing this game for many years spent lots of money over the years i used to enjoy this game but lately many things have been changed that the player base did not want WG not listing well you have lost another player  i may still come on once and a wile but im done the HE changes is the last straw 

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View PostArphila, on May 18 2021 - 16:58, said:

Here's my feedback: No

And Hell No ! 







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