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Tornheart #5261 Posted Apr 13 2014 - 22:03

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{lang:macro__view_post}Kyphe, on Apr 13 2014 - 21:44, said:

The first bar crossed the tank and connected to a rocker bar, which then connected to the second torsion bar which then came back across the tank the other way and was attached to the hull,

 

Normally a torsion bar has one end that is free to rotate and one end that is fixed and the bar remains in a rigid line simply turning on a axis, this system is more of a hybrid


I understand the idea and the method of torsion bars, I just don't understand how the suspension in the Panther could work. If it was built as you describe, with a simple bar between the two torsion bars, then the twist of the first bar would lift the free end of the second bar. That isn't something you can do with a torsion bar, it would likely just snap, even if there were space in the underside of the Panther for that sort of movement. If the technical drawings of the Panther are accurate, there isn't room for that kind of movement at all.

 

The twist from one torsion bar to the other would have to be handled by a small gearbox and not a rocker arm (or bar, because as far as I know, there is no such thing as a rocker bar.) The problem is, I can't seem to find any information or images that support my little theory.



Kyphe #5262 Posted Apr 13 2014 - 22:53

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Tornheart #5263 Posted Apr 13 2014 - 23:02

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Well, isn't that interesting. The presenter in the second video sounds a lot like one of the historians from Operation Think Tank.

dcon930 #5264 Posted Apr 14 2014 - 01:15

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{lang:macro__view_post}Kyphe, on Apr 13 2014 - 08:28, said:

 Otherwise you have to make the tank very long for balance and that makes turning worse and adds to overall weight.

 

 

 

 

 

On the plus side, long tanks are good for landwhale jokes.



ket101 #5265 Posted Apr 14 2014 - 02:02

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So the system is to get the road wheel travel height they wanted, 20 inches of travel by the video.  Makes sense, since torsion bars can be a little stiff if you can't fit longer suspension arms on them.

shapeshifter #5266 Posted Yesterday, 11:32 PM

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B.I.O.S. final report No. 614

Welding design and fabrication of german tank hulls and turrets.

 

https://depositfiles...files/317on1dbz

It goes into great depth. with a ton of detail on armor interlocking etc.






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