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boomslanger #6101 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 01:49

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I read someplace that the Indians have built a state of the art tank with excellent armor and a great gun that fires their own home grown hammer head ammo an ATGM. Also it appears that indo-US ties have taken a strategic outlook with the two countries partnering in a lot of weapon systems any tank related? I ask you because you know everything... if you like you can tell me directly in an e-mail.  I think given the global geopolitical  environment what India is doing has become important for us so a little education about their Armor would be welcome I got the NEWS about the Indian armor in a little box in which it was mentioned that American Armor would be in India for an Army exercise... Sounded interesting but I do not have connection to any networks here so.. Would be very grateful to you if you let us know I don't even know whether this request is in the scope of your interests/work but just hoping just the same..Shall be watching this space my friend will be saving this page for me everyday. Thank you,

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View Postboomslanger, on Apr 25 2015 - 01:49, said:

I read someplace that the Indians have built a state of the art tank with excellent armor and a great gun that fires their own home grown hammer head ammo an ATGM. Also it appears that indo-US ties have taken a strategic outlook with the two countries partnering in a lot of weapon systems any tank related? I ask you because you know everything... if you like you can tell me directly in an e-mail.  I think given the global geopolitical  environment what India is doing has become important for us so a little education about their Armor would be welcome I got the NEWS about the Indian armor in a little box in which it was mentioned that American Armor would be in India for an Army exercise... Sounded interesting but I do not have connection to any networks here so.. Would be very grateful to you if you let us know I don't even know whether this request is in the scope of your interests/work but just hoping just the same..Shall be watching this space my friend will be saving this page for me everyday. Thank you,

Warm regards,

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Arjun is a pile of garbage. 

The_Chieftain #6103 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 03:31

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I don't know. It had serious teething troubles, but that's hardly new. V-22 had trouble as well. I've not really heard an impartial assessment of Arjun as it currently is in service.

favrepeoria #6104 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 07:24

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But also importantly what do you think of T-14 Armata from what has gotten out so far?

The_Chieftain #6105 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 14:37

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Even less. Nobody has seen a proper picture of it yet, neither have any in-service comments come out that I'm aware of. What grounds have I to make an opinion?

Walter_Sobchak #6106 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 18:20

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As to the Arjun, globalsecurity.org has a fairly detailed write up about it.  There is also a good, albeit old article on the Arjun on page 33-35 of the May Jun issue of ARMOR.  As the Chieftain said, lots of teething problems.  

 

Block Quote: 1998 ARMOR article

However, the list of faults after 20 years of development was not encouraging. In addition to numerous technical modifications to its fire and gun control systems (the commander’s periscope sight, the laser warning sight, and the muzzle reference sight have been found “unreliable”, the fire control system in particular has been found unable to perform in temperatures above 42 degrees Celsius (108° F). The DRDO has been considering scrapping the current Arjun fire control system in favor of whatever is accepted for the T-72M1 upgrade program. 

 

The MTU powerpack derates at high temperatures, and ammunition stowage had to be reduced in order to increase engine cooling, however, plans remained in place to acquire 1,500 engines up until mid-’97). The problems with the hydropneumatic suspension can possibly be linked to the Arjun’s difficulty in climbing sand dunes and other obstacles easily, with a sharp drop in speed in its attempt to do so. Furthermore, the technology transfer of the imported engine, gun control system, and fire-control system have been tied up with most vendors (like MTU and Holland’s Oldelft, which makes the LRS 5 fire control system) to produce components in India in a phased manner. Defects noticed during the user trials of the Arjun Mk.1 MBT, including overheating of the engine in Rajasthan desert areas, had supposedly been “by and large overcome” while other complaints were being addressed. CVRDE has mostly rectified the other problems in the hydro-pneumatic suspension.

 

 


Edited by Walter_Sobchak, Apr 25 2015 - 18:20.


collimatrix #6107 Posted Apr 25 2015 - 20:15

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Apr 25 2015 - 14:37, said:

Even less. Nobody has seen a proper picture of it yet, neither have any in-service comments come out that I'm aware of. What grounds have I to make an opinion?

 

Well, for starters, you could reasonably conclude that the turret is obviously not waterproof, since they insist on putting a tarp over it all the time.

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View Postcollimatrix, on Apr 25 2015 - 20:15, said:

 

Well, for starters, you could reasonably conclude that the turret is obviously not waterproof, since they insist on putting a tarp over it all the time.

LOL



Walter_Sobchak #6109 Posted Yesterday, 07:04 PM

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Hey Chieftain, I thought you might enjoy this article (if you haven't already seen it when it was originally published) 

 

History of the Cav Hat.

 

(I would post the page images here but word press doesn't let me do that, unlike my old blog.)

 






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