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arash11 #1 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 17:14

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dear S WG ,

T57 heavy is not Equal to Kranvgan 

not every autoloader is equal 

fix it in your S MM

 



I_QQ_4_U #2 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 17:23

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Ffs, if they listened too all you idiots who want ever single aspect of the game perfectly balanced in the MM it would take half an hour to get a game. Deal with it.

pafman #3 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 17:33

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^^^ this is kit_kat, right? 

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View Postarash11, on Aug 04 2021 - 08:14, said:

dear S WG ,

T57 heavy is not Equal to Kranvgan 

not every autoloader is equal 

fix it in your S MM

 

 

Of course the T57 Heavy is not equal to the Kranvagan.  If it was, it would be called a Kranvagan!

Each vehicle has it's own strengths and weaknesses and it's up to you as a player to make the most of the vehicle you are in.

 

Is the T57 Heavy weaker than the Kranvagan?  Possibly.  It's certainly not doing as well statistically per tomato.gg, but a deeper look to see who is playing those tanks may add some insight as to why at least in the last 60 days, the Kranvagan is doing better.

 

Meanwhile you could possibly support your claim by saying why the T57 Heavy isn't "equal".  What have you noticed that makes it lacking in comparison?  Have you a replay to share that illustrates what you are saying?



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If you are implying that the Kran is just simply better, I don't think that's the case. The Kran is better for being hulldown on a ridgeline. Other than that, I think the T57 is honestly better. 

arash11 #6 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 17:44

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View PostPanzerkind, on Aug 04 2021 - 17:38, said:

If you are implying that the Kran is just simply better, I don't think that's the case. The Kran is better for being hulldown on a ridgeline. Other than that, I think the T57 is honestly better. 

 

with current meta , hull down maps , the answer is yes kran is better

i can understand t57 heavy  = 50B  BUT no Kran

look @ Rank result and ask your self why people use kran but no t57 and 50B in rank ?

 

View PostAltwar, on Aug 04 2021 - 17:35, said:

 

Of course the T57 Heavy is not equal to the Kranvagan.  If it was, it would be called a Kranvagan!

Each vehicle has it's own strengths and weaknesses and it's up to you as a player to make the most of the vehicle you are in.

 

Is the T57 Heavy weaker than the Kranvagan?  Possibly.  It's certainly not doing as well statistically per tomato.gg, but a deeper look to see who is playing those tanks may add some insight as to why at least in the last 60 days, the Kranvagan is doing better.

 

Meanwhile you could possibly support your claim by saying why the T57 Heavy isn't "equal".  What have you noticed that makes it lacking in comparison?  Have you a replay to share that illustrates what you are saying?

 

look each tank has own weak point and advantages

you must know your tank and select the strategy in map to be effective in battel 

BUT

with Todays meta hull down maps simply you don't have enough options 

then MM can fix it , if you put one hull down tank in one team at least  put another to other team

Problem start when todays MM think ok , i put one autoloader in one team ( T57) and other autoloader (Kran) for other team

 

 

 

 


Edited by arash11, Aug 04 2021 - 18:18.


arash11 #7 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 17:48

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Aug 04 2021 - 17:23, said:

Ffs, if they listened too all you idiots who want ever single aspect of the game perfectly balanced in the MM it would take half an hour to get a game. Deal with it.

 

thanks for insult 

and then u think current meta is perfect balanced? 

are you the developer , did you get paid ? typical .... lool

YOU don't even have/own Kran or T57 or 50B , i think ur not classified to post this topic  and call people idiot

thank you

 

 

 


Edited by arash11, Aug 04 2021 - 18:09.


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View Postarash11, on Aug 04 2021 - 17:48, said:

thanks for insult 

and then u think current meta is perfect balanced? 

are you the developer , did you get paid ? typical .... lool

YOU don't even have/own Kran or T57 or 50B , i think ur not classified to post this topic  and call people idiot

thank you

Well, you don't need to have a tank in question in order to know how it performs, you just need to be observant and see how it performs in the hands of other players (in addition to how it is to go against it) which arguably could in some instances be better since then you wouldn't have your own bias to deal with.

And did you mean "Qualified" and not "classified"?

(and the "is paid" comment.. hah)



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T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

I_QQ_4_U #10 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 18:59

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View Postarash11, on Aug 04 2021 - 17:48, said:

 

thanks for insult 

and then u think current meta is perfect balanced? 

are you the developer , did you get paid ? typical .... lool

YOU don't even have/own Kran or T57 or 50B , i think ur not classified to post this topic  and call people idiot

thank you

 

 

 

 


Actually, yes I do own all three of them and I've played both the T57 and Kran. Other than that you just proved you are an idiot since how does owning a specific tank have anything at all to do with what I said?? No idea what a balanced meta is either.


Edited by I_QQ_4_U, Aug 04 2021 - 19:14.


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View PostJaguarz, on Aug 04 2021 - 19:50, said:

T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

 

What.



arash11 #12 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 21:01

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Aug 04 2021 - 18:59, said:

 


Actually, yes I do own all three of them and I've played both the T57 and Kran. Other than that you just proved you are an idiot since how does owning a specific tank have anything at all to do with what I said?? No idea what a balanced meta is either.

 

:)

You don't have any tier X on this account , if you have an other account please post here with your real one , then we can decide who is idiot

i simply suggest something , there is no need for name calling and personal attacks ! 

i can respect your opinion

everybody can have there opinion , we are here to reason with , here is not 3rd world country with vodka drinking dictator on top 

lool

 

52% reroll then enjoy 

thank you

 

View PostNdtm, on Aug 04 2021 - 18:43, said:

Well, you don't need to have a tank in question in order to know how it performs, you just need to be observant and see how it performs in the hands of other players (in addition to how it is to go against it) which arguably could in some instances be better since then you wouldn't have your own bias to deal with.

And did you mean "Qualified" and not "classified"?

(and the "is paid" comment.. hah)

yes i mean Qualified

the way he react to my post , I hope he get paid enough

if he don't get paid over his forum activities , then I'm sad for this dude

i don't know the guy. just look how he is react to this topic omg , lol

 

but then again look @ ranks tank , kran + STB

pretty much the same story

 

 

 

View PostJaguarz, on Aug 04 2021 - 18:50, said:

T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

 

you are right my friend but DPM alone is not enough to hold back the flank

correct me if i'm wrong but t57 is still a support tank , don't have the speed to act alone and don't have the armor and with the team works in WOT clearly not a match to deal with kran 

 

 

 

 


Edited by arash11, Aug 04 2021 - 21:32.


GeneralButtBuster_ #13 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 21:17

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View PostJaguarz, on Aug 04 2021 - 18:50, said:

T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

What.



GeneralButtBuster_ #14 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 21:19

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View Postarash11, on Aug 04 2021 - 21:01, said:

 

:)

 

52% reroll then enjoy 

thank you

 

yes i mean Qualified

the way he react to my post , I hope he get paid enough

if he don't get paid over his forum activities , then I'm sad for this dude

i don't know the guy. just look how he is react to this topic omg , lol

 

but then again look @ ranks tank , kran + STB

pretty much the same story

 

 

 

 

you are right my friend but DPM alone is not enough to hold back the flank

correct me if i'm wrong but t57 is still a support tank , don't have the speed to act alone and don't have the armor and with the team works in WOT clearly not a match to deal with kran 

 

 

 

 

Seriously??? Two people who genuinely think the T57 has the highest DPM in the game? 

 

Welp, that just shows how much the OP really knows about what he is talking about.



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holup, different tanks aren't identical?

 

View PostGeneralButtBuster, on Aug 04 2021 - 14:17, said:

What.

T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

 

fwiw it's actually 7th.https://tanks.gg/list/stats



arash11 #16 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 21:34

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View PostXOIIO, on Aug 04 2021 - 21:21, said:

holup, different tanks aren't identical?

 

T57 has the highest DPM in the game if I recall correctly, cant have everything.

 

fwiw it's actually 7th.https://tanks.gg/list/stats

View PostGeneralButtBuster, on Aug 04 2021 - 21:19, said:

Seriously??? Two people who genuinely think the T57 has the highest DPM in the game? 

 

Welp, that just shows how much the OP really knows about what he is talking about.

 

maybe he think in heavys class

but still

T57 heavy :  3,096.77DPM

Kran:            2,933.38DPM 

 

its not even an advantage for t57 in front of kran

 


Edited by arash11, Aug 04 2021 - 21:39.


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View PostAltwar, on Aug 04 2021 - 11:35, said:

 

  What have you noticed that makes it lacking in comparison? 

 

Armor?



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View PostKharah_o7, on Aug 04 2021 - 19:50, said:

 

What.


am I going crazy? Back in 2014 I could swear the T57 was considered OP because it had something like 22 second clip time with 1,600 burst? That put it at something like 3,400 which is insane for an auto loader.

 

I’m an idiot though so may be completely misremembering.

 

 

nope back in the day there are whine threads about people

in alpha TDs trying to trade just to be dual clipped for >3,200 potential before they could reload. That’s probably what this guy was referring to though seems irrelevant 7 years later. Guess the T57 is just paying reparations 



TheRealSerapth #19 Posted Aug 04 2021 - 22:34

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 No to be pedantic, but…

 

The word you are looking for is equivalent not equal.



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View Postarash11, on Aug 04 2021 - 14:34, said:

 

maybe he think in heavys class

but still

T57 heavy :  3,096.77DPM

Kran:            2,933.38DPM 

 

its not even an advantage for t57 in front of kran

 

 

Where are you getting these numbers?  tanks.gg shows 3203 for T57 and 2983 for Kran.

 

For hull-down work I'd pick the Kran, but everything else I'd rather have T57.






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