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Best Equipment for WZ-121 in 2021 after 1.14.1 Buff?

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valeman12345 #1 Posted Oct 13 2021 - 01:33

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List the best Equipment, Crew skills of each member and Field modifications for the Tier 10 China Medium Tank WZ-121 in 2021 after Update 1.14.1 buffs?

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KaSt_Patton #2 Posted Oct 13 2021 - 19:36

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https://skill4ltu.eu/

 

there you go



TastyPastry #3 Posted Oct 13 2021 - 21:11

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View PostKaSt_Patton, on Oct 13 2021 - 14:36, said:

https://skill4ltu.eu/

 

there you go

 

This site's "bad" ratings are ridiculous

 

CS-63

Manticore

Obj 430 Ver II

777

 

Are all fine tanks.

 

Even tanks like the AMX AC 48, CAX, St Emil are hardly bad tanks. The AMX AC 48 and St Emil are one dimensional, and the CAX is kind of boring, but none of those tanks are bottom of the barrel. 



The_Happiest_Husky #4 Posted Oct 13 2021 - 22:22

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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 13 2021 - 12:11, said:

 

This site's "bad" ratings are ridiculous

 

CS-63

Manticore

Obj 430 Ver II

777

 

Are all fine tanks.

 

Even tanks like the AMX AC 48, CAX, St Emil are hardly bad tanks. The AMX AC 48 and St Emil are one dimensional, and the CAX is kind of boring, but none of those tanks are bottom of the barrel. 

some realllllly dumb rating choices yeah


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TastyPastry #5 Posted Oct 13 2021 - 22:50

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View PostThe_Happiest_Husky, on Oct 13 2021 - 17:22, said:

some realllllly dumb rating choices yeah

 

Is this seriously skill's website? I thought he was supposed to be good. I mean CS-63 is like S tier because it can play roles no other tank can fulfill. 



valeman12345 #6 Posted Oct 14 2021 - 02:19

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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 13 2021 - 12:11, said:

 

This site's "bad" ratings are ridiculous

 

CS-63

Manticore

Obj 430 Ver II

777

Are all fine tanks.

Even tanks like the AMX AC 48, CAX, St Emil are hardly bad tanks. The AMX AC 48 and St Emil are one dimensional, and the CAX is kind of boring, but none of those tanks are bottom of the barrel. 

View PostThe_Happiest_Husky, on Oct 13 2021 - 13:22, said:

some realllllly dumb rating choices yeah

Just asking see what other use for



KaSt_Patton #7 Posted Oct 14 2021 - 18:50

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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 13 2021 - 22:50, said:

 

Is this seriously skill's website? I thought he was supposed to be good. I mean CS-63 is like S tier because it can play roles no other tank can fulfill. 

The Leopard 1 can be just as fast and has a much better gun than the cs-63.

The speed boost is just a gimmick that is not a good as just a constantly fast tank like the Leo



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View PostKaSt_Patton, on Oct 14 2021 - 13:50, said:

The Leopard 1 can be just as fast and has a much better gun than the cs-63.

The speed boost is just a gimmick that is not a good as just a constantly fast tank like the Leo

 

The Leo 1 is one of the best tier 10s right now. Just because the CS-63 is less viable than the Leo doesn't mean the CS is a trash tank. The speed mode is hardly a gimmick. The acceleration is what sets the tank apart, not the top speed. In a hill climb, the CS is unmatched by other meds. 



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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 13 2021 - 16:50, said:

 

Is this seriously skill's website? I thought he was supposed to be good. I mean CS-63 is like S tier because it can play roles no other tank can fulfill. 

It is, but you have to understand a lot of it is tainted by his personal taste in things. He's made it very obvious that he absolutely despises the CS-63 for example when asked about it on stream. I'd recommend that everyone follow the official Serb™ guide to tank tiers:


SSS Tier: Anything Russian

Welcome to Mario Kart Tier: EBR

F Garbage Tier: Anything non-Russian



Discount_Bacon #10 Posted Oct 15 2021 - 20:25

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it got minimal aim time and soft stat buff(basically got a free GLD and half a vstab), field mods and equip should not have changed.

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why did wg for get to buff the 121b, this is the same nation and is a med tank. WG you have no idea how to do a correct buff of any lines, when you for get one, and make the tier 6 have better dpm than a tier 9 or 10 something is wrong with this picture, your balance team needs to be fired 

 



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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 13 2021 - 22:50, said:

 

Is this seriously skill's website? I thought he was supposed to be good. I mean CS-63 is like S tier because it can play roles no other tank can fulfill. 

 

In his defense, he ''doesn't like it''  and  ''admits he is not professionally clan wars'' oriented a player, he has less preference for it in public battle



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View PostKaSt_Patton, on Oct 14 2021 - 18:50, said:

The Leopard 1 can be just as fast and has a much better gun than the cs-63.

The speed boost is just a gimmick that is not a good as just a constantly fast tank like the Leo

 

Map control is not a gimmick. Like how 277, 260 can blur the lines of what is medium, what is heavy

CS63 blurs the lines of reaching areas like a light tank. The HP/T is very different, almost +10 when boost is on

The success of CS63 isn't measured by its ability to fight. The success is measured by its ability to acquire territory to which taking it, the positions help the entire team

So in this respect, the only firepower CS63 basically requires, is that greater than light tanks. And it has that in spades

 

 

 



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View PostDraschel, on Oct 16 2021 - 07:33, said:

 

In his defense, he ''doesn't like it''  and  ''admits he is not professionally clan wars'' oriented a player, he has less preference for it in public battle

 

CS-63 is still not bottom of the barrel in pubs. Manticore is decent in pubs. The 430 II is great in pubs and the 777 is pretty overpowered. 



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View PostTastyPastry, on Oct 16 2021 - 21:14, said:

 

 and the 777 is pretty overpowered. 

 

I certainly don't see the object 777 part. But even Iyouxin thinks it is  Meh

777 gets a bad rap, for the life of me I don't see why. Perhaps the gun handling, DPM. But those aside 777 is a dominating tank

It has virtually has no weaknesses, and unlike kamp panzer or concept, it gets tier X HEAT pen. Good mobility too



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I have never seen a CS63 in randoms, ever. The only people that defend this tanks are great players, the ones that can make any tank work. But, Skill also lists the Standard B as "Epic", I rage sold that tank when after the nerf I completely missed a entire clip at another tanks broad side from 200m away.

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View PostPoinciana, on Oct 17 2021 - 20:45, said:

I have never seen a CS63 in randoms, ever. The only people that defend this tanks are great players, the ones that can make any tank work. But, Skill also lists the Standard B as "Epic", I rage sold that tank when after the nerf I completely missed a entire clip at another tanks broad side from 200m away.

 

Standard B was pretty good before the nerfs. I haven't played it afterwards, but it was pretty strong before the nerf.

 

CS-63 is a hard tank to make work, which is why it's uncommon. That doesn't mean it's a bad tank. 






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