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Museum Review: Technical Museum of Vadim Zadorozhny, Moscow.


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The_Chieftain #1 Posted Oct 25 2011 - 19:44

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It is difficult to miss this museum as you’re driving by. The 200 or so yards of tanks, artillery and aircraft parked by the side of the road on the other side of an iron fence are fairly noticeable.

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It is theoretically possible to reach this museum by public transport. Take the Metro to the Tushinkaya station, then bus 549, 541, 568 and taxi 151 to the Lipovaya Alley stop. It’s probably easier to find someone with a car, it’s a few miles West of Moscow. Once you’ve found the line of tanks, pull into the laneway, that’s where the entrance is. The parking restrictions are apparently usually ignored, leave the car wherever and walk to the admission kiosk.

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Once you’ve paid the fee, walk towards the lend-lease Stuart. Looks kindof odd with the red star on it, but anyway.

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The main exhibition hall is to the right. Go in the glass door, present your ticket, and walk around. You are presented with a somewhat unexpected and incongruous collection.

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Remember, this is a technical museum, not a military museum. The museum owner, a chap who obviously has a few roubles to spare on non-necessities, likes machinery, and is fairly non-specific as to what sort of machinery it is. One may not have a clue as to what one is looking at (and one usually doesn’t, unless one can read Russian), but it seems fairly evident that whatever it is, it’s in fantastic condition and probably quite rare.

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There seems little rhyme or reason to the layout. Goliath in front of a BF-109, a Fokker DR1 hanging over an Alfa Romeo Spyder.

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Once you’ve done looking at some frankly astonishing pieces of automotive engineering, you can wander upstairs to the mezzanine level, where the primary foci are motorcycles and aircraft.

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But again, you’ll never know quite what you’ll see next. A display of car jacks next to a collection of cameras next to a collection of machineguns.

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Eventually, you will run out of things to look at. The downside is that one cannot walk around most of the exhibits to see them from different angles, you’re fairly much confined to ‘front.’ Walk back outside and see what else you can find…

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A Yak-38 brings you in the right direction. Something you’ll notice is that Mr Zadorozhny has a thing for Yakovlev. Inside the building you just left, the Yak fighters are some of the rarest aircraft in the world, being apparently the only ones left that have the original engines. As I walked towards the Forger, I mentioned to my companion that I had seen the successor aircraft, Freestyle, a few years ago in Farnborough. No sooner had those words left my lips than we cleared a corner and “Oh. There it is.”

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Unlike the vehicles inside the building, you can walk all around the outdoor exhibits. Some of them (More Yaks) are, unfortunately, placed a little high up so modellers can get a great view of the wheel wells, but not much else.

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Your course will eventually take you back to the line of armour which you first saw when you were driving here to begin with. Some of it is fairly standard fare…

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Some of it, not so much.

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One of the more unusual features of this museum is that it’s a bit more kid-friendly than most. Most musea tend to frown upon children climbing the exhibits or otherwise manipulating them, but in this one, audience participation, at least on the steel, is accepted. As a result, you’ll see kids climbing on the tanks or playing with the traversing/elevating gear of the artillery.

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Not that I’m saying it’s a great kid’s day out, musea rarely are, but at least your progeny will be able to recharge their interest.
Unlike the indoor exhibits, the outdoor ones do allow you to walk around and get photos from all sorts of angles. I must admit to this having been the first time I’ve seen a T-80 up close, so I certainly took advantage of the opportunity.

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Similarly, I can’t recall the last time I saw a Ganef in person.

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The other thing to note about the facility is that it is not just an open collection. It is a fully working fabrication and repair facility. I am led to believe that the T-60s here are new-build (out of a batch of 4), and not restorations. Though obviously walking into the shops is liable to have you yelled at, it is nice to be able to look in and see the workings.

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The museum is overall worth the visit if you have time to kill, but as a tanker I wouldn’t put it above the Central Armed Forces Museum or Kubinka. People who are dragging their families around, however, might find this a better place to go as they have more than just tanks to look at.

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You took too many pictures of cars an stuff I have no interest in looking at when about to play my favorite tank game. Please focus more on tanks, there were so many in the line up that I'd like to have seen instead of planes and cars.

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Thank you for the report, but it definetly needs more pictures of sidecar motorcycles armed with machine guns.

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Brilliant read mate. I'd love to have the chance to visit some of these places.
If you need any help reviewing Bovington or Australia's tank museum in Puckapunyal i've got about 14 million photo's I'm willing to share!

knucklehead47 #5 Posted Oct 26 2011 - 00:13

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Looks awesome ! Wish I could go there,is there anything like this in the states ?

weveran #6 Posted Oct 26 2011 - 00:25

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Was that a stuka in the background??

Given the distance from Australia to Moscow is a bit great could I also add to the requests for more photo's of the WW2 era kit

GoodGameXXX #7 Posted Oct 26 2011 - 01:49

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Beautiful photography and exhibits!   I'd rate that museum as worth a visit.

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Sorry for the noob question but what tank is this? Posted Image Its hull looks like a IS3/IS7 but the turret and cannon I've never seen before. Searching for the filename (ptrk) also turns up no results. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Also, great work on the pictures and it was a very interesting article!

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View Postyayyap159, on Oct 26 2011 - 04:58, said:

Sorry for the noob question but what tank is this?
object 757 (1959). based on IS-3M.

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You mention a Fokker DR 1 ? Holy crap! I've always heard that there are no originals left anywhere in the world, the last one was destroyed in a museum during a bombing raid on Berlin in WWII.
I'd love to see a picture of that and more pictures of the BF 109.

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Looks like a fascinating museum.

There are a lot of good photos on this site - http://www.armyrecog...opic.php?p=7583

Also found a photo of the Fokker DR1 along with some of the other aircraft here - http://picasaweb.goo...adorozhnyMuseum

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View Postcomplicated, on Oct 26 2011 - 08:01, said:

object 757 (1959). based on IS-3M.
It's based on T-10 hull.

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Wow really awesome museum and read, Would be cool to visit and see some of the tanks we play with in real life. And its awesome that you can climb and interact somewhat with the tanks and artillery. It would be even cooler if you could tour the inside of the tanks on display. Too bad its all the way in Russia  :huh:

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Awesome review Chieftain, thank you

The_Chieftain #15 Posted Oct 27 2011 - 02:52

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View Postcomplicated, on Oct 26 2011 - 08:01, said:

object 757 (1959). based on IS-3M.

This is what the card in front has to say:

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hence the PTRK filename.

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PTRK means "Противотанковый ракетный комплекс" - "Antitank missile system".
So PTRK=ATGM.
This tank had D-126C launcher for ATGM "Rubin" (ruby) - IR-guided AT missile with HEAT warhead.
Armour penetration is ~500mm,
Caliber - 125mm,
Max distance - 4 km,
Speed - 550 m/s
RoF - 4-5
Also Object 757 could use "Bur" missile (non-guided).
Max distance - 9 km,
Speed - 650-750 m/s
RoF - up to 10.

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View Postyayyap159, on Oct 26 2011 - 04:58, said:

Sorry for the noob question but what tank is this? Posted Image Its hull looks like a IS3/IS7 but the turret and cannon I've never seen before. Searching for the filename (ptrk) also turns up no results. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Also, great work on the pictures and it was a very interesting article!



thats because most of the stuff on this game was either a prototype or a proposed model that was never used, this tank is an IS3 and as for the gun it looks like a 100mm but im not 100% sure.

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View PostLoooSeR78V, on Oct 27 2011 - 15:08, said:

PTRK means "Противотанковый ракетный комплекс" - "Antitank missile system".
So PTRK=ATGM.
This tank had D-126C launcher for ATGM "Rubin" (ruby) - IR-guided AT missile with HEAT warhead.
Armour penetration is ~500mm,
Caliber - 125mm,
Max distance - 4 km,
Speed - 550 m/s
RoF - 4-5
Also Object 757 could use "Bur" missile (non-guided).
Max distance - 9 km,
Speed - 650-750 m/s
RoF - up to 10.

Thank you. :)

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Oct 27 2011 - 17:58, said:

Thank you. :)
I can help with translation from russian to bad english  :lol:

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View Postyayyap159, on Oct 26 2011 - 04:58, said:

Sorry for the noob question but what tank is this? Posted Image Its hull looks like a IS3/IS7 but the turret and cannon I've never seen before. Searching for the filename (ptrk) also turns up no results. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Also, great work on the pictures and it was a very interesting article!
If you look closley at the plank. it say T-50M. Never heard of that  :Smile-hiding:




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