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TheDawg's Photo TheDawg Jan 07 2012

Rammer, gun laying drive, camo net.
My crew is well into their second "skill" set. when you get there, split it half repairs, half camo.
get a fire extinguisher, small repair kit and health pack.
YOU gotta stay in the battle to win epic silver.
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Ezz's Photo Ezz Jan 09 2012

I'm currently running the fairly standard vents, v stab and rammer and have been for a long time. I'm curious tho, is anyone running with the enhanced optics? I have never really run with them in the past, but now the 59s have to take on a less aggressive role in some of the tier 11 battles, i'm thinking they might come in handy. Thoughts?
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Huck_'s Photo Huck_ Jan 09 2012

 Ezz, on Jan 09 2012 - 01:43, said:

I'm currently running the fairly standard vents, v stab and rammer and have been for a long time. I'm curious tho, is anyone running with the enhanced optics? I have never really run with them in the past, but now the 59s have to take on a less aggressive role in some of the tier 11 battles, i'm thinking they might come in handy. Thoughts?

I think that's reasonable. A lot of t-54 drivers swear by vents, v stab and optics, and with the new MM the Type could assume a more well-rounded "team" role... one that lends itself to optics in place of rammer. The main issue I have with the change, though, is whether the increased scouting ability for your team outweighs the decrease in brawling ability vs. the other Types you're sure to encounter... the bottom line is the servers are still swarming with Types, and without a rammer you will be at a disadvantage against those you run into. Just some food for thought... but yes, I think optics are a reasonable alternative now.
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Ezz's Photo Ezz Jan 09 2012

 COLONEL64, on Jan 09 2012 - 02:09, said:

I think that's reasonable. A lot of t-54 drivers swear by vents, v stab and optics, and with the new MM the Type could assume a more well-rounded "team" role... one that lends itself to optics in place of rammer. The main issue I have with the change, though, is whether the increased scouting ability for your team outweighs the decrease in brawling ability vs. the other Types you're sure to encounter... the bottom line is the servers are still swarming with Types, and without a rammer you will be at a disadvantage against those you run into. Just some food for thought... but yes, I think optics are a reasonable alternative now.
I was thinking in exchange for the vents. Mainly for credit reason i didn't run vents on any tanks until recently (thanks to the 59 :)) so i was never a huge fan. I tend to like the 59's brawling aspect so the v stab and rammer i will keep. The minimal gains the vents offer to driving, loading and radio may not outweigh the extra sight range. I think I'll give the optics a burl and see how they go.
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120mm_he's Photo 120mm_he Jan 09 2012

Still swearing by a gld, rammer and vert stab.

This tank is all about the gun and it literally pays to buff it to the max.

Just check my t59 stats for confirmation.
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Ezz's Photo Ezz Jan 09 2012

 120mm_he, on Jan 09 2012 - 08:33, said:

Still swearing by a gld, rammer and vert stab.

This tank is all about the gun and it literally pays to buff it to the max.

Just check my t59 stats for confirmation.
Not saying you're 'wrong' exactly, but i don't find the gun to be the 59's greatest asset. In comparison to other tier 8 meds it's got the worst gun - but the best frontal armor, good speed and reasonably good mobility.

And fwiw, my first few runs with optics instead of vents seemed to go pretty well - but with so few battles and such small differences i wouldn't say it's a night and day difference. Certainly viable for anyone considering swapping out their vents.
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Lazyhound's Photo Lazyhound Jan 11 2012

 captking, on Oct 31 2011 - 19:15, said:

Vent, Stab, Wet Ammo Rack.

This, and also a removed speed governor in place of the fire extinguisher. Running a spall liner is crazy, they weigh a ton.
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120mm_he's Photo 120mm_he Jan 12 2012

 Ezz, on Jan 09 2012 - 23:50, said:

Not saying you're 'wrong' exactly, but i don't find the gun to be the 59's greatest asset. In comparison to other tier 8 meds it's got the worst gun - but the best frontal armor, good speed and reasonably good mobility.

And fwiw, my first few runs with optics instead of vents seemed to go pretty well - but with so few battles and such small differences i wouldn't say it's a night and day difference. Certainly viable for anyone considering swapping out their vents.

Well I already find that the tanks other performance areas are sufficient especially if you use the rsg and oil.

I simply find that with that setup I do much much better on snap shots or rolling shots which tends to be the majority of shots for me.
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Kamisama's Photo Kamisama Jan 12 2012

I Play this Tank 600+ battle with 51% victory (not bad i think) ;)
My choice for equipment since beginning : Rammer, Vent, and vert Stab. same with my T-54  :)
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BigRed8's Photo BigRed8 Jan 12 2012

I have been having good luck with the rammer, vert stab, and w.a.r..  I ran optics for a while but I kept getting ammo racked.  The wet rack seems to help out tremendously.  Removed speed governor is great for hill climbing.
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Musmulica's Photo Musmulica Jan 12 2012

you either go platoon with more types or you lose that is my feeling about it
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BullTiger's Photo BullTiger Jan 22 2012

 COLONEL64, on Jan 07 2012 - 14:59, said:

If you don't see where the shots are from, then you are a terrible medium tank driver. Do you not know the maps? Do you not know the common team tactics on each map? The hiding points? The choke points? The sniping points? Do you not know how long it takes you to get from point A to point B, how long you will be exposed, where you will be exposed, and to what potential tanks? Are you not moving 55 kph the entire time this is happening? People get racked because they employ stupid tactics or because they are incredibly unlucky (something that can happen to ANY tank). Learn your tank, learn the maps, fight one enemy at a time, fight the appropriate tier enemy, keep your turret pointed at that enemy, and keep moving the entire time, and you will get racked LESS than the average tank, not more.
At times the shots are from out of range tanks. At other times, tanks will pop out while under camo. It only takes one shot to get ammo-racked. Yes, after over 6000 battles I know where the spots are that i may be exposed. While flying at top speed, it can be very challenging to always know where the enemy is setting up. I've spent many games taking this tank to the very edge of where the enemy is at full speed and circle back towards support. You are a better med driver than I if you always know where the enemy will be.
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AuroraLota's Photo AuroraLota Jan 22 2012

VS, Ram, and GLD are still the best combo, it gives this soviet tank the best aim speed from the reduced bloom and aim time, paired with the fastest possible ROF. As for vent, 1.3% increase over a near 9% increase is hardly justifiable even when it adds to all specs, and for WAR as long as you play smart (avoid showing your hull side and turrets back, avoid getting hit by bl10 like gun from the front) u'll never need one.
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Huck_'s Photo Huck_ Jan 30 2012

 cummer, on Jan 22 2012 - 10:41, said:

VS, Ram, and GLD are still the best combo, it gives this soviet tank the best aim speed from the reduced bloom and aim time, paired with the fastest possible ROF. As for vent, 1.3% increase over a near 9% increase is hardly justifiable even when it adds to all specs, and for WAR as long as you play smart (avoid showing your hull side and turrets back, avoid getting hit by bl10 like gun from the front) u'll never need one.

GLD? In 1000 battles the only time I've been stationary in the tank is when I've been tracked.
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Ezz's Photo Ezz Jan 30 2012

 COLONEL64, on Jan 30 2012 - 06:38, said:

GLD? In 1000 battles the only time I've been stationary in the tank is when I've been tracked.
Which by my experience would be fairly often ;)

I've never tried the GLD. For mine VS and Rammer are on everything that can take them. Movement is key in WoT - especially with the 59. With VS and Rammer on board i have been going with either optics, or vents as the third option. That being said, i might give some passive scouting with binocs a try now that my crew has some decent camo about it and the 59 is seeing more stuff it can't damage.
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xiantom's Photo xiantom Feb 05 2012

I used to have the vert stab, rammer and ventilation, then 7.1 patch came and I got ammo racked 3 times in a row which got me to get a wet ammo rack, when I only got ammoracked about 6 times in total before that. Think they nerfed the ammo rack or something.... <_<
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Edbert's Photo Edbert Feb 06 2012

I can say I don't think I've been racked more than once or twice, then again I run Stab/Ram/WAR.

I decided long before I bought a T59 that I'd load a WAR, since I've killed many dozen of them with a single shot to the side, certainly more than any other opponent.
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muswp1's Photo muswp1 Feb 17 2012

I have a rammer, vertical stabilizer, and a WAR on mine.
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SapphireFox's Photo SapphireFox Feb 17 2012

I fight rather aggressively in my Type 59 so I run a Vertical Stabilizer, Vents, and a Shell Rammer.

I have only been ammo racked twice in my WoT career, once in my Type 59 after getting nailed by a Maus while I was climbing a hill and once in my Panther after getting hit by a snap shot from a T95's 155mm gun. Bearing this in mind I consider the Wet Ammo Rack a rather useless add on for my playstyle however if you find yourself getting racked on a regular basis then I would suggest trading out the Vents for the Wet Ammo Rack.
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9braker's Photo 9braker Feb 24 2012

after 550 games in mine i have noticed that fires are very rare so i replaced extinguisher for governor rammer and stab a must for brawling and because its proponsity  to have ammo rack damage i use war to prevent racking and lower chance to have to have to repair the thing tank with damaged rack is a dead tank reload just becomes stupid slow.
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