T110`s Armor
Mow_Mow
Aug 08 2012
cipher12
Aug 08 2012
Is this some form of new griefing? because I don't really get it (I know there in the wrong order but this forum is so awkward when it comes to images)

Mow_Mow
Aug 08 2012
No idea what they were doing : (
Probably need to submit a replay and see what support does or says.
Probably need to submit a replay and see what support does or says.
Dominatus
Aug 08 2012
Trying to block the path? Kinda stupid considering wrecks can be pushed away.
WarriorOsprey
Aug 08 2012
Kinda stupid considering it gives cover for the enemy to hull down behind.
tactical note: The team that attacks up that hill actually has the stronger defensive position because the east team has to traverse a much more open area to attack, and there's actual functioning cover.
This is the same on that stupid mountain map. One team has a massive hull-down ridge overlooking a huge, lightly-covered plain. And they attack. Wut.
Edited by WarriorOsprey, Aug 08 2012 - 02:48.
tactical note: The team that attacks up that hill actually has the stronger defensive position because the east team has to traverse a much more open area to attack, and there's actual functioning cover.
This is the same on that stupid mountain map. One team has a massive hull-down ridge overlooking a huge, lightly-covered plain. And they attack. Wut.
Edited by WarriorOsprey, Aug 08 2012 - 02:48.
Awesomecopter
Aug 08 2012
For the first time in my 10k battles, i got premium, and i must say, it makes a FANTASTIC difference.
thank you hellcat all-stars.
playing Patton with T15e2m2 is like shoving glass into my fingernails, while sitting in comfy chinz couch.
thank you hellcat all-stars.
playing Patton with T15e2m2 is like shoving glass into my fingernails, while sitting in comfy chinz couch.
LittleJoeRambler
Aug 08 2012
Random, out-of-the-blue thought for the day: I wonder what a Hellcat with the 17 pdr would be like.
Tupinambis
Aug 08 2012
ApplesauceBandit
Aug 08 2012
lostwingman, on Aug 08 2012 - 00:38, said:
Isn't the least comfy tank the BatChat though?
Cadet_Christmas
Aug 08 2012
lostwingman
Aug 08 2012
ApplesauceBandit, on Aug 08 2012 - 04:53, said:
No, that's the ELC. The reason the turret only turns a total of 30 degrees is because the tank is so small they had to put the seats (made from broken retractable gym bleachers) on the hull, not in a turret basket. Also, do you expect such a small tank to be comfortable while having a 90mm gun and 36 rounds for it in addition to a 250 HP engine?
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Early French designs of the ELC AMX designated it the "Tardus", lauding it's capable ergonomic fitting of the NATO standard refrigerator, recliners, and deep fryers.
Seems legit to me.
Toasted_Rofls
Aug 08 2012
ForcestormX, on Aug 07 2012 - 22:31, said:
Toasted, if you play the Patton a little more loosely (sit around less) then losing the mantlet doesn't hurt you since the turret is harder to hit.
But I was bouncing tier 10 tanks with my stock turret, they where penning the mantlet but not the rear, zero damage pen after zero damage pen. The trolling was excellent.
Goddamnit that view range and RoF better be worth it, I enjoy using the Patton like a super T32, it's amazing. The difference between the American medium lines, turreted TD's, and heavies is what they do when they are not hull downing.
LoooSeR78V
Aug 08 2012
Cadet_Christmas, on Aug 08 2012 - 05:22, said:
Da! We can visit LooserV! Or at least be on the right track. I found a video of him! He lost his tank recently, but he found an equally awesome vehicle 
And BTW - it wasn't me in video. No, realy, i'm trolling peoples in Saint-Petersburg.
Zergling
Aug 08 2012
LittleJoeRambler, on Aug 08 2012 - 04:37, said:
Random, out-of-the-blue thought for the day: I wonder what a Hellcat with the 17 pdr would be like.
Depends on how far WG want to screw up with the penetration for the 17 Pounder. They gave the version on the French S-35 CA only 144mm pen, but IRL it was probably up around 170mm.
The_Chieftain's article on USA penetration tests and German armor give a strong indication that the 17 Pounder had better penetration than the 90mm M3, which has 160mm pen in WoT... so the 170mm pen figure is probably accurate.
The_Chieftain, can you pretty please make sure WG don't screw up with the 17 Pounder's penetration for the British tree? Giving the 17 Pounder ridiculously low pen figures will really mess up the balance of that tree and result in various unhistorical situations.
FaustianQ
Aug 08 2012
Don't count on much, they can't even be arsed to call the subcaliber round for it APDS.
SpectreHD
Aug 08 2012
Zergling, on Aug 08 2012 - 10:39, said:
Depends on how far WG want to screw up with the penetration for the 17 Pounder. They gave the version on the French S-35 CA only 144mm pen, but IRL it was probably up around 170mm.
The_Chieftain's article on USA penetration tests and German armor give a strong indication that the 17 Pounder had better penetration than the 90mm M3, which has 160mm pen in WoT... so the 170mm pen figure is probably accurate.
The_Chieftain, can you pretty please make sure WG don't screw up with the 17 Pounder's penetration for the British tree? Giving the 17 Pounder ridiculously low pen figures will really mess up the balance of that tree and result in various unhistorical situations.
Just like the way WG has given proper penetration for certain German and US tanks? Nah, mate...
111psycho
Aug 08 2012
FaustianQ, on Aug 08 2012 - 00:38, said:
"When told he should aim better, the M46 Patton gunner said 'Why'. He now works in a T34."
Actually, about the E-50M - seems to replacing the IS-7 actually. With only a 100HP and moderate armor advantage, the IS-7 loses out on everything else. Even now PBKAC is getting people to grind for E-50Ms, and in some cases it's been replacing the BatChat as a hill taker. This likely means good things for the Leo 1 as the eventual prime hill taker due a combination of speed and gun depression, with the AMX-30 bringing up the rear.
Apparently I hit close to home as far as the second US medium line, so expect either the T77 or XM60 as top tier, with a 120mm gun for either, as the XM60 had the X23 120mm for consideration, which is the L11 precursor IIRC. I may be remembering my tanks wrong and it could have been the MBTMR, which in itself would be great fun though.
So potential end tier US tanks - T77, T95, XM60, MBTMR. Fairly sure I haven't forgotten any.
Actually, about the E-50M - seems to replacing the IS-7 actually. With only a 100HP and moderate armor advantage, the IS-7 loses out on everything else. Even now PBKAC is getting people to grind for E-50Ms, and in some cases it's been replacing the BatChat as a hill taker. This likely means good things for the Leo 1 as the eventual prime hill taker due a combination of speed and gun depression, with the AMX-30 bringing up the rear.
Apparently I hit close to home as far as the second US medium line, so expect either the T77 or XM60 as top tier, with a 120mm gun for either, as the XM60 had the X23 120mm for consideration, which is the L11 precursor IIRC. I may be remembering my tanks wrong and it could have been the MBTMR, which in itself would be great fun though.
So potential end tier US tanks - T77, T95, XM60, MBTMR. Fairly sure I haven't forgotten any.
T54?
Edited by 111psycho, Aug 08 2012 - 14:13.
ultra1437
Aug 08 2012
Toasted_Rofls, on Aug 07 2012 - 22:02, said:
That sucks. I enjoyed hull downing in my Pershing and pretending I was a heavy tank. Enemies mounting tier 10 guns did not realized the full level of the stupidity of my turret mantlet, and as a result, shot it, thinking it was like my hull, paper. My repeated bounces sure showed them. Also, I facehugged Type 59's because I was hardcore like that. I even tried to facehug an American heavy at one point... That was an interesting fight.
But, yeah, so far, Patton has impressed me and I haven't even fully upgraded it or gotten my crew up to 100%. I am expecting big, big things from the M48 unless they nerf it, which they probably will.
But, yeah, so far, Patton has impressed me and I haven't even fully upgraded it or gotten my crew up to 100%. I am expecting big, big things from the M48 unless they nerf it, which they probably will.
Oh, i have NO doubt they'll nerf the crap out of the M48.
And as a warning, ramblings ahead, skip to the last two paragraphs if you want, as they're likely the only thing most can relate to.
I was platooned up with clanmate with another one (and a third clanmate grinding his KT and lorry) and we TORE apart teams pretty easily. The match before i platooned up, was a steppes encounter battle, and i spawned north, three tier 10 tanks per team. I got four kills (straight up, for the most part, only one low-hp steal), along with 3 extra damages, and 24 shots, of which, 23 hit, and a single one bounced. I did die, but i'll be damned if there weren't a combined total of 15 tank wrecks about my own, most (10+) of which were red.
The first platooned match i had, was on sand river, assault (on defense, naturally). Decided to light em up early, and went straight for the large hill overlooking the city. Lit up upwards of 7 tanks, including a single arty, and tore the nearest target a new 105mm skylight. The other M48 was sitting back on the other large hill near cap, and just put round after round on target, the third toonmate was in his lorry and was trying to spot on the west side of the map, but ended up dying to an arty shot. Afterwards the other m48 went down south and he ended up behind enemy lines while i distracted the enemy for him, by shooting a few tanks (IS-7, IS-4, E-75, T34, possibly more) in their sides/rear. Enemy arty never even got a shot off before my toonmate pegged him. He died to a chat/JT combo though. I did take the E-75 and T34 out, arty stole the IS-4, 704 stole the IS-7 though. All that's left is a T-62A and the JT (who's on the other side of the map). The T-62a appears near arty and i know there's no way i can save them, but make my way back to base getting ready to defend cap. Turns out, after he killed arty, he ran down 0 column, and towards K8 hoping to get the 704 with it's back turned. He got spotted by the 704, and i was just coming up over the near-cap hill, i just slammed the brakes and lined up a shot (he still had full health, 704 had ~800. Two rounds into the 62A dropped him to near 60% health (~1200) and he gave up on the 704 with now, ~50 health left. Side shot as he tries to go across, toward the (standard battle) cap zone in the south-east. Third round into him tracks, 704 hits him for ~800, and my remaining teammates take him out. Of 37 credit rounds, i had 9 left, i believe. I got ~92k in gross profit, taking exactly two hits, one each from the IS-4 and IS-7.
Basically, that's what my night was, match after match of torturing, pillaging, and burning teams. Only once did i get targeted by arty. Standard battle on malinovka. Didn't turn a good match for me, but still won it. Two T95s and two JP-100s on the field, unhindered does wonders for taking a base/flank shots.
You know what, i'm just gonna post a couple replays when i get home. It'll show you how my evening was yesterday. It won't be till i get home tonight, but yeah.
My performance certainly did increase when i swapped my T110E5's and M48's crews (and retrained them). The crew on my T110 is what my original Chaffee's crew was (BIA done, and 95%+ on recon, snapshot, smooth ride, repairs), and my M48's crew was four of my original six in my T30 (5/6 originally from my M6, swapping second gunner for second loader), with BIA done, Sixth sense, snapshot, smooth ride, safe stowage for second, and (85%+) Recon, repairs, off-road king, and relaying for third.
With a vert stab, another M48 at 150m is still BIGGER than my reticle when i'm running FULL TILT in any direction. Even ran a battle with a hurt gunner and only needed to stop for short periods of time to let my turret turn to the target.
ForcestormX, on Aug 08 2012 - 02:55, said:
E4 is surprisingly comfy too.
So i hear, i took one out last night, it spins pretty quick.
Toasted_Rofls, on Aug 08 2012 - 05:42, said:
But I was bouncing tier 10 tanks with my stock turret, they where penning the mantlet but not the rear, zero damage pen after zero damage pen. The trolling was excellent.
Goddamnit that view range and RoF better be worth it, I enjoy using the Patton like a super T32, it's amazing. The difference between the American medium lines, turreted TD's, and heavies is what they do when they are not hull downing.
Goddamnit that view range and RoF better be worth it, I enjoy using the Patton like a super T32, it's amazing. The difference between the American medium lines, turreted TD's, and heavies is what they do when they are not hull downing.
I did forget to mention that the upped turret is considerably thinner in width. The only thing i'd worry about is getting hit in the hull by arty, personally. The little mantlet that's still there is as thick as the original turret's, it's just not nearly as pronounced on the tank.
111psycho, on Aug 08 2012 - 14:12, said:
FaustianQ, on Aug 08 2012 - 00:38, said:
"When told he should aim better, the M46 Patton gunner said 'Why'. He now works in a T34."
Actually, about the E-50M - seems to replacing the IS-7 actually. With only a 100HP and moderate armor advantage, the IS-7 loses out on everything else. Even now PBKAC is getting people to grind for E-50Ms, and in some cases it's been replacing the BatChat as a hill taker. This likely means good things for the Leo 1 as the eventual prime hill taker due a combination of speed and gun depression, with the AMX-30 bringing up the rear.
Apparently I hit close to home as far as the second US medium line, so expect either the T77 or XM60 as top tier, with a 120mm gun for either, as the XM60 had the X23 120mm for consideration, which is the L11 precursor IIRC. I may be remembering my tanks wrong and it could have been the MBTMR, which in itself would be great fun though.
So potential end tier US tanks - T77, T95, XM60, MBTMR. Fairly sure I haven't forgotten any.
Actually, about the E-50M - seems to replacing the IS-7 actually. With only a 100HP and moderate armor advantage, the IS-7 loses out on everything else. Even now PBKAC is getting people to grind for E-50Ms, and in some cases it's been replacing the BatChat as a hill taker. This likely means good things for the Leo 1 as the eventual prime hill taker due a combination of speed and gun depression, with the AMX-30 bringing up the rear.
Apparently I hit close to home as far as the second US medium line, so expect either the T77 or XM60 as top tier, with a 120mm gun for either, as the XM60 had the X23 120mm for consideration, which is the L11 precursor IIRC. I may be remembering my tanks wrong and it could have been the MBTMR, which in itself would be great fun though.
So potential end tier US tanks - T77, T95, XM60, MBTMR. Fairly sure I haven't forgotten any.
T54?

Oh, that's quite lovely. And to be honest, i've all but replaced my T110E5 with my M48. It plays SO much better than the 110 ever did.
Edit - replays: http://www.mediafire...w9gaoh4w8z9uedj
Edited by ultra1437, Aug 09 2012 - 01:26.


