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 99VulcansHammers, on May 11 2012 - 02:00, said:

I totally agree.  After I played one day on 7.3 I uninstalled.  I'll keep an eye to see if they fix it, but its just not worth it to waste my time with this going on right now.  Sucks when instead of being a fun competitive game - it just frustrates and pisses you off

RNG is the problem with this game. It has too much control over every aspect of this game. It decide when you pen, how much damage, if you miss, when you hit an enemy what damage you do to a module, etc.

Had a game in my T30 and seen a lowe that was hiding behind a rock all I could see was from the gun up so I hit his commanders hatch for a IT WENT RIGHT THROUGH, did damage but funny thing was I set fire to him. Lowe asked me WTF I said how could that shot set fire to him. RNG decided that no matter where I hit it was time for him to be set on fire.

Now the reason for that story was that RNG has been picked at so much to try and limit credit earning and getting more wasted ammo to make this game become a pay to stay even game. Who in their right mind is gonna pay to have their games earn little credits and pay out a ton for wasted ammo. No way should RNG affect this game so much. Guns should not miss a target at 100m by 3 feet, NEVER.

Is there an official position from the devs about this issue? Im getting about 20% or 30% of my hits with no damage. This is frustrating.

Their official position is to ignore this threadnaught and/or spout "working as intended" nonsense, as if pissing off your user base is intended.

 thor66, on May 11 2012 - 05:06, said:

I feel that you are very likely correct, as I have to ask many of these same questions out of pure frustration.  I am telling you someone should come along and make a better version of this kind of tank game - I will definitely switch.  I paid about $30 or so on three different accounts (mine, my sons, and a dual account we share) and I feel way dissadvantaged at not spending a bunch more money, juety to be able to progress with the game and stay competitive. It seems very apparent to me how their game play and business model are set up to continually drain money out of you.  Too bad - best game concept I have ever personally seen and the only game I play any more.  My son quit playing out of frustration as well.

WoT - step up yo!

 edumartins, on May 11 2012 - 16:11, said:

Your doing better than me then.  I suddenly cant hit or damage anything with the Russian 107. And not much better with other tanks (all Ruskie)

 dauvin, on May 11 2012 - 16:59, said:

YOu hit the nail on the head. The mod who did read this forum got intimidated when players proved they were smarter than he gave them credit for. He said all 0 damage hits were the sole arena of an inprobable shot through the tracks. He gave the same canned response to every scenario. As if a 85 mm shell can hit the back of the turret of a KV( Now the KV-2) , show a penetration, and somehow miraculously it did  damage, Mods Response  YOure so stuid that didnt hit the turret your 85 mm shell went through the TRACK ( 4 FEET DROP IN LESS THAN 30 M) AND DID 0 damage there.

Now I am not 100% sure but the gaps in any tanks tracks are far less than 85 mm. But we are treted with disrespect and ignored/Banned if we know FACTS.

 DestrosFist, on May 11 2012 - 22:10, said:

RNG decides:

When you pen
When you bounce
When you miss
When you have your gun destroyed
When you crew memeber is killed
.... you get my point.

RNG is being manipulated by the devs to give an advantage to certains lines of tanks. When a t30 155mm gun cannot pen the side of a M12 arty who only has 16mm of side armor you know something does not seem right. Devs think all this BS with zero pen hit and RNG making shells fly all over the place at 10m is working as intended but have no clue to the damage it is doing to this game and when it like others become lost in time maybe they will think back about the stupid notion of screwing customers out of their hard earned money to try and think people will buy gold ammo.

Look at this game with rational eyes and not butt kissing eyes and you will start to see this game is not based on skill but on what the RNG wants to give you. We have all seen it shots you have taken that should have missed by a mile but hit or shots that should have hit but disappear into thin air. When I in T30 hit a lowe in the commander hatch because all I could see was from gun up because he was behind rock and I was below him shooting up and hear THAT ONE WENT THROUGH and then WTF I set him on fire. Lowe said how the hell could you set me on fire, I was like WTF now I know RNG is rigged when a shot going up hits commander hatch and sets him on fire, I knew RNG decided it was time for lowe to burn not because I hit gas tanks or engine but because it was the so called random number. When I can with 155mm t30 gun hit amx 13 75  for lowest damage roll and not do any mod damage to have hm then first shot set fire to my engine with little 75mm gun, then kill gunner, then kill radioman, then kill driver, and all this while I try to reload. Seems like small guns never miss mods or crew but large guns hitting easy to kill sh!t will bounce or get zero pen shots.

If only we could see the program I think we would be turned off because of the BIAS of this game.

 RageHellion, on May 11 2012 - 22:23, said:

Like stalin said tell a lie enough time it becomes truth. Devs think we cant tell the difference between turret shot to track shot. Funny how little they really think of us as customers.

 RageHellion, on May 11 2012 - 22:23, said:

I'm more tired of posting the same response over and over. Some people don't read my initial post and straight goes to posting.

I say again, what you are experiencing are for the majority, a voice over error. Yes, zero damage criticals, as in legitimate ones do happen occasionally. But it is very VERY rare, and it is being worked on.

The voice change is forwarded to a community manager, and has moved up to the developers.

Don't shoot the messenger because you don't like what they say, because they are actually trying to help behind the stage.

 Sadukar09, on May 12 2012 - 04:28, said:

So I guess another voice change. Maybe this time HEY SUCKER HOW YOU LIKE THAT 1000 CREDIT SHELL DOING NOTHING or maybe BANG....NADA.....WORKING AS INTENDED. Game is broken and its not ocassionaly zero damage pens AND NO its not track shots, easy to tell them when at 50m you gun fires like it just rolled off a table, WOW that must have been some programming there to make a shell roll LOL. But hey keep the birds coming it helps take our minds off the crickets chirping from the devs silence.

 Sadukar09, on May 12 2012 - 04:28, said:

I understand and appreciate FINALLY someone saying they are working on this issue, but no offense sir, to say "But it is very VERY rare" I would DEFINATELY have to beg to differ, I've done "training" missions with friends, and COUNTLESS battles where I was sitting withing 30m and firing basically point blank with various tanks... even had a DERP KV do a zero dmg pen on the back end of a PZIV.... often times in battle when I hear "we penetrated his armor" or w/e and dont do any damage I'll actually ASK in all chat if I damaged anything and its always the same... "nope, ha ha." I really think this is a WAY more common problem than realized and really needs a hard look...

I rarely post on the forums. I mostly just read them, but the 0 damage pen hitis are really getting worse as I move up the tier's. Couple days ago I just got my E-75. I've been grinding and waiting to get this thing for a long time, but itself no better at penning than my tiger. No matter where I hit a tank, I get 0 damage, or 0 damage critical hits. I can barely afford to play with my brand new E-75, as the cost of repair and to reload it are too much money. The IS's are the worst! Seems like the only thing I can do is track them. Seems like anything thats shoots at me though, has no problem damaging me. They should make it if you shoot at somebody and you damage a module, or a crew member, they should tell you with a pop up on your screen. Not everybody can see the critical damage you caused. Only the person that causes the critical damage can see the critical damage they caused. As far as the hit boxes on the tanks go, I don't knowif WTF if/what they are going to do about that. It definitely seems like something that can easily be fixed. But if there motive is for the consumer to spend money, then it wouldn't benefit them to fix it. So I am sure that money has a lot to do with it.

Bottomline, it sucks, it's annoying, and it's discouraging. Screw the new maps in 7.4, or 7.5. I think we would all greatly appreciate it if you were to just focus on fixing this issue, and after you guys take care of this issue, and then you can move on to developing new maps for the game. A lot of people are complaining about this. Just is a legitimate problem/bug and the game. If you had your priorities straight, this would most definitely be at the very top of things that need to be taken care of in the next patch that comes out. That's just my opinion though.

Just like to point out that when I used the premium code I was really if ever getting 0 damage pens, but back to normal and back to 25% or so.  Sorry but its not tracks, its not spaced armor, its just pathetic coding by people who can't figure out wha they did wrong and I will not give them 1 more penny until its fixed or I give up on the game.  (had 2 point blank REAR hits on a jag4 do 0 damge with the derp 152 kv2 using HE!  oh and 4 more in a row on my t30, 3 front and 1 rear.)

is it me or is everyone else noticing the tracks have these things called gears. dont they break just as often as the tracks them selves.

 Sadukar09, on May 12 2012 - 04:28, said:

You know you could have saved a lot of time in the OP and just said those two lines. Thats all anyone really wants to know.  And I really hope they are changing the voice message from "penetration" on a track hit.  Course you said it didn't really make sense yourself.
Edited by Keifomofutu, May 12 2012 - 10:49.

 Sadukar09, on May 12 2012 - 04:28, said:

What is your definition of rare?  0 damage pens happen to me about three times every other battle it seems.  And all the 500+ posts would seem to indicate a normal trend.

I only got one comment, just one...IT TOOK "THEM" 1 YEAR TO FIX THE TIGER TANK"
I think you guys understand what is going to happen to this "0 Damage" issue

It is NOT "rare".  It is not acceptable.  And it needs to be fixed ASAP.  I am done playing this game until the no damage hit, as described by so many above and as experienced by myself countless times, gets fixed and it is made clear that it was an issue and is fixed.  This issue has ruined the game for those who experience it (and it appears that many are).

 DestrosFist, on May 12 2012 - 19:08, said:

Do you know what is going to become rare... players.
I have been playing this game for almost a year now,Zero pen hits have never been so bad as they are now.
As players we don't care what the voice over says . It can say "you just rang one off the commanders head",.
If it went through the tank and hit the commanders head the shell did damage..there should be no such thing as a zero pen hit...