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AgentQ #1 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:01

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So, i am 600+ matches into my favorite tank. crews are at 78% on the 3rd skill. My Avg exp per match is around 800 in this tank. How much more games do i need to max out on tank crew?

Commisar #2 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:02

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a lot

Oceanhawk60 #3 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:06

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I transferred the crew in my ISU-152 into my Object 704 and they had already maxed the first skill and were well on their way in the second skill. I now have over 500 battles in the 704 where I am averaging well over 800 exp per game and I still haven't maxed out the 3rd skill. I think it is still at around 90%.

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View PostAgentQ, on Nov 11 2011 - 16:01, said:

So, i am 600+ matches into my favorite tank. crews are at 78% on the 3rd skill. My Avg exp per match is around 800 in this tank. How much more games do i need to max out on tank crew?

you have along way to go to max it out, i do know there is a site someplace that gives you the numbers on what is needed xp wise for crews. but for the life of me i cant remember where it is...sorry :(

Oceanhawk60 #5 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:09

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Here is a link to the Wiki article showing the required crew training exp graph:

Crew Experience Graph

Ironmonger69 #6 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:16

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Thereis no way to predict how well you will do.  You can guestimate from your average, but for all you know your next 30 games will be a horrible slide of bad luck, for example.  My guess, since each skill is exponentially more than the previous, is that it will probably take you another 350-450 matches.

But I'm only speculating wildly.

a1fox3 #7 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:18

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Here is the link for ever thing about your crew.
http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Crew

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AgentQ #8 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:25

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oh shit.. 25000+ exp per crew! 300 games maybe

jankar #9 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 16:47

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View PostAgentQ, on Nov 11 2011 - 16:01, said:

So, i am 600+ matches into my favorite tank. crews are at 78% on the 3rd skill. My Avg exp per match is around 800 in this tank. How much more games do i need to max out on tank crew?
According to the specification, http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Crew, crew training is a parabolic function of experience earned. This means that it is faster to train your crew from say, level of 75% to 80%, than from 95% to 100%. Similarly, it takes more experience to increase crew competency level from 99% to 100% than from 75% to 76%. Parabolic function can be "steep" or "flattened" depends on the value of parameters used.  Steep makes training faster.

From the graph, you can see that it takes about
5,000 XP to train crew to 100% in primary level,
10,000 XP in secondary skill 1,
20,000 XP in secondary skill 2,
40,000 XP in secondary skill 3.

Sum this up and multiply by number of crew and tanks in your garage. In my case it takes about 10,000 battles to get 100% training in all skills on all tanks and all crew.

a1fox3 #10 Posted Nov 11 2011 - 20:09

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View Postjankar, on Nov 11 2011 - 16:47, said:

According to the specification, http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Crew, crew training is a parabolic function of experience earned. This means that it is faster to train your crew from say, level of 75% to 80%, than from 95% to 100%. Similarly, it takes more experience to increase crew competency level from 99% to 100% than from 75% to 76%. Parabolic function can be "steep" or "flattened" depends on the value of parameters used.  Steep makes training faster.

From the graph, you can see that it takes about
5,000 XP to train crew to 100% in primary level,
10,000 XP in secondary skill 1,
20,000 XP in secondary skill 2,
40,000 XP in secondary skill 3.

Sum this up and multiply by number of crew and tanks in your garage. In my case it takes about 10,000 battles to get 100% training in all skills on all tanks and all crew.
Not so, for you primary skill for the last % is 5000.  To go from 99% to 100% is 5000 xp and for the 1st secondary skill to go from 99% to 100% is 10000xp and so on. Look at the graph and you will see this.

I wish some one could come up with the exact amount of xp that is needed to go from 50% to 100% and 75% to 100% for the primary and from 0 to 100% on the other skills.

jankar #11 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 15:24

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View Posta1fox3, on Nov 11 2011 - 20:09, said:

I wish some one could come up with the exact amount of xp that is needed to go from 50% to 100% and 75% to 100% for the primary and from 0 to 100% on the other skills.
From the graph:
- for primary 50% to 100% you need about 4,500 xp per single crew.
- for primary 75% to 100% ~3,750 xp
- for secondary skill 1 0% to 100% ~10,000 xp
- for secondary skill 2 0% to 100% ~20,000 xp
- for secondary skill 3 0% to 100% ~40,000 xp

With such high amount of xp needed, plus/minus 100 xp is not a big margin.

EDIT
The numbers shown above are incorrect. The true numbers are much higher. In fact, the graph shows amount of experience not for the training percentage, but for the increase in training of 1% only at the existing training level. For correct results please refer to the next entry in this topic.

I sincerely apologize for this unintentional mistake and any inconvenience it may caused.

Filthy #12 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 16:37

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Does anyone have a 100% crew through all 3 secondary skills?

TK3600 #13 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 17:42

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you need more 30% more.....

Skorak #14 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 18:05

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View Posta1fox3, on Nov 11 2011 - 20:09, said:

I wish some one could come up with the exact amount of xp that is needed to go from 50% to 100% and 75% to 100% for the primary and from 0 to 100% on the other skills.

If I understand the formula in the wiki correctly, i.e. going from 50% to 51% primary crew skill is 50*(100^0.01)^50 = 500 xp and so on, then you'd get the following results assuming each 1% increment requirement is rounded up to the next greatest integer (ceiling function in Excel):

50% - 100% primary skill = 95508 xp
75% - 100% primary skill = 72555 xp
0% - 100% 1st secondary skill = 210110 xp
0% - 100% 2nd secondary skill = 420175 xp
0% - 100% 3rd secondary skill = 840308 xp

RecksRacer #15 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 19:31

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View Postjankar, on Nov 15 2011 - 15:24, said:

From the graph:
- for primary 50% to 100% you need about 4,500 xp per single crew.
- for primary 75% to 100% ~3,750 xp
- for secondary skill 1 0% to 100% ~10,000 xp
- for secondary skill 2 0% to 100% ~20,000 xp
- for secondary skill 3 0% to 100% ~40,000 xp

With such high amount of xp needed, plus/minus 100 xp is not a big margin.

It's amazing to me that people can't read a graph..

That is not what the graph shows. Learn to read a graph and post again.

jankar #16 Posted Nov 16 2011 - 08:41

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English is ambiguous. I confused term "percentage" with "percentile". Argument x in the graph represents 1% growth rate in the training at given percentage level, axis y how much experience points does it take.

So, correcting my values from the last post - increase in primary experience from 99% to 100% costs about 5,000 xp, secondary skill 1 from 99% to 100% costs 10,000 xp and so on.

Rainybeet #17 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 05:16

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I know this is an old post, but for those curious the answer is 901 games, 773 with accelerate crew training turned on.

To go from 100% primary to 100% 3rd secondary skill would take 2451 battles(2101 accelerated) averaging 600xp per game. At 800xp that works out to 1838 (1576).