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RayDrazon11 #1 Posted Nov 12 2011 - 04:53

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I'm new to WoT and I'm just getting into the hang of it. The problem is, I don't know which tree should I focus most on. Should I go down the USSR, Germany, or USA?

P.S. The tree I would like to choose is the tree with the best Heavy Tank; I'm planning to go Light, then Medium, then finally progress to Heavy. :)

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 12 2011 - 04:53, said:

I'm new to WoT and I'm just getting into the hang of it. The problem is, I don't know which tree should I focus most on. Should I go down the USSR, Germany, or USA?

P.S. The tree I would like to choose is the tree with the best Heavy Tank; I'm planning to go Light, then Medium, then finally progress to Heavy. :)

Please comment and post below. Thanks
I personally have really enjoyed the german line of tanks

hunter56 #3 Posted Nov 12 2011 - 04:57

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its not what others think is right for you but what do you like.
german hvy slow big armour
usa hvys are big guns weak armour
ussr hvys are fast and good guns.
you never know you might like fast tanks or tds or even arty

Comrade_Zhukov #4 Posted Nov 12 2011 - 05:01

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You'll get a heavy first if you play russian.  The KV also provides a good taste for future heavy gameplay.
The germans don't get a heavy until the tiger, and the americans force you to go through the lee... and the t1... which, according to my friend, and my experience in a kv, are fail.

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View Posthunter56, on Nov 12 2011 - 04:57, said:

its not what others think is right for you but what do you like.
german hvy slow big armour
usa hvys are big guns weak armour
ussr hvys are fast and good guns.
you never know you might like fast tanks or tds or even arty

Which tree do most Heavy tank players go down?

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sorry - refer to post below

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the trend these days looks german. They get accurite high penetration guns as well (not the highest damage...)

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What kind of Heavy Tank do you want though?

I'm assuming you're going for the Tier 10's so here's a brief outline of each tank.

USSR - IS7 - Crazyly good frontal sloped armour with very small weakspots with a decent gun. It stands out by being very low to the ground and is the fastest out of all the tier 10's. Capable of reaching 50km/h, it is very good as acting like a medium. Very little gun depression as well.

Gemany - Maus - The tier 10 battleship. Slow as hell but has very good protection from all sides. Anything under tier 9 won't be able to pen you and if you learn to manually angle you're armour, you'll          be able bounce alot of shots. Not great for popping in and out of buildings to take shots due to the tank design, but is good at being the initator of a push. Gun is decent, but lacks in penetration (same damage as IS-7 gun)
       - E100 - Sides and rear is less armoured than Maus but same frontol protection (sometimes even better). Faster than Maus and has a centered turret. Still very well protected and mounts 2 guns - the stock one which is the same 128mm the Maus gets. Or an upgraded 150mm which deals a tonne of damage. However, the 150mm without gold rounds will give you alot of trouble due to lack of penetration.

USA - T30 - Same acceleration as IS-7 but capped top speed at 35. It is a glass cannon - having the equal best gun in the game while having literally no armour apart from your turret. Awsome gun depression so on hilly maps this tank excels. Plays like a TD though and is too weak to go 1v1 against other tier 10's.
*Note that the T30 will be moved to the TD line in about 3 months and a new tank, the T110 is replacing the T30. The T110 will still have the weakest armour but is small and will be up there with the is-7 in terms of mobility and acceleration. Will have a very fast shooting gun with insane penetration and medicore alpha damage (but with insane dpm). More notes on this tank will come out soon.

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I'm on the USA Heavy line,German Medium line,And Russian Heavy line.(plus I did the German TD line)
So the best is the USA Heavy line.


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are u looking at the heavy tree as a whole? or are u only interested at the top tier tanks (T10).

If you are only interested at the top tier tank, all three nations are on par, with probably German heavies (Maus and E-100) a bit more useful than the other 2 nations in clan wars.

But if you are asking about the experience of the whole heavy line, Russian heavy line is by far the easiest and most enjoyable heavy line to grind through.

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View Post_DK_, on Nov 12 2011 - 05:09, said:

What kind of Heavy Tank do you want though?

I'm assuming you're going for the Tier 10's so here's a brief outline of each tank.

USSR - IS7 - Crazyly good frontal sloped armour with very small weakspots with a decent gun. It stands out by being very low to the ground and is the fastest out of all the tier 10's. Capable of reaching 50km/h, it is very good as acting like a medium. Very little gun depression as well.

Gemany - Maus - The tier 10 battleship. Slow as hell but has very good protection from all sides. Anything under tier 9 won't be able to pen you and if you learn to manually angle you're armour, you'll          be able bounce alot of shots. Not great for popping in and out of buildings to take shots due to the tank design, but is good at being the initator of a push. Gun is decent, but lacks in penetration (same damage as IS-7 gun)
       - E100 - Sides and rear is less armoured than Maus but same frontol protection (sometimes even better). Faster than Maus and has a centered turret. Still very well protected and mounts 2 guns - the stock one which is the same 128mm the Maus gets. Or an upgraded 150mm which deals a tonne of damage. However, the 150mm without gold rounds will give you alot of trouble due to lack of penetration.

USA - T30 - Same acceleration as IS-7 but capped top speed at 35. It is a glass cannon - having the equal best gun in the game while having literally no armour apart from your turret. Awsome gun depression so on hilly maps this tank excels. Plays like a TD though and is too weak to go 1v1 against other tier 10's.
*Note that the T30 will be moved to the TD line in about 3 months and a new tank, the T110 is replacing the T30. The T110 will still have the weakest armour but is small and will be up there with the is-7 in terms of mobility and acceleration. Will have a very fast shooting gun with insane penetration and medicore alpha damage (but with insane dpm). More notes on this tank will come out soon.

What is the IS-7, Maus, E-100, T30, T110 good at?

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 12 2011 - 05:17, said:

What is the IS-7, Maus, E-100, T30, T110 good at?

IS-7 good at getting to chokepoints fast and brawling

Maus - is only good in city maps and any maps with cover from arty. Very good at taking hits for the team.

T30 - TD so stay back, stay hidden and blow shit up with your awsome cannon. Decent acceleration so can get to good spots as well.

E-100 - Mix between T30 and Maus

T110 - Support, let others take hits while dealing fast damage and being hard to hit.

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 12 2011 - 05:17, said:

What is the IS-7, Maus, E-100, T30, T110 good at?

Depends. But with the traits he pointed out to you, you can determine what they are good at. Lots of armor = good damage absorber. Fast speed = better at flanking. Big gun = kills stuff. Until you actually see how these tanks play, it's kind of hard to say how they play, especially since you are just starting out and haven't even come across the basic heavy tanks.

Also to add on what _DK_ said, Russian guns tend to have high damage, low rate of fire, and bad accuracy. German guns tend to have high accuracy, high rate of fire, and medium damage, and the American guns are somewhere between.

@_DK_ I disagree with 1 point you made about the T30, "Plays like a TD though and is too weak to go 1v1 against other tier 10's." Agreed it plays like a TD, but if it's going against an IS-7 straight up same skilled players, no cover, no misses/bounces, it will win 100% of the time. I feel as if the IS-7 is more fitting into that role of not being able to 1vs1 other tier 10s currently due to its low armor and medium damage gun, it's not any faster than a T30 on flat ground so it's not exactly the "agile speed demon" it used to be when it was only it and the Maus at tier 10.

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Does anyone know which heavy tank is the most versatile? (Good Gun, Fast Speed, Good Armor, etc) I'm currently trying to decide whether to stick to the Germany Tank Tree and get the E-100, Maus, or stick to the Russian Tank Tree and get the IS-7; Help on this!

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 13 2011 - 04:56, said:

Does anyone know which heavy tank is the most versatile? (Good Gun, Fast Speed, Good Armor, etc) I'm currently trying to decide whether to stick to the Germany Tank Tree and get the E-100, Maus, or stick to the Russian Tank Tree and get the IS-7; Help on this!
IS-7 then, exactly as you mentioned, good gun, fast speed, good armour and versatile

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View Post_DK_, on Nov 13 2011 - 05:11, said:

IS-7 then, exactly as you mentioned, good gun, fast speed, good armour and versatile

The thing with the IS-7 is that a lot of people say that it isn't used as much in clan battles. Also, isn't the E-100 also quite versatile?

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 13 2011 - 05:30, said:

The thing with the IS-7 is that a lot of people say that it isn't used as much in clan battles. Also, isn't the E-100 also quite versatile?

IS-7 is used quite alot as a pack and only no used for defence, E-100 is a bit slow and big for some maps.

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Well depends on your skill level.  Russian tanks for the most part are easier to get more exp due to high damage early.  German tanks are usually snipers and slow so you wind up getting only partial exp for your damage.  USA tanks are a mix between the 2 but not very well armored nor very sloped so you almost take full damage every time you get hit.  So I would personally recommend going Russian first if you're going heavies.

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View PostRayDrazon11, on Nov 13 2011 - 05:30, said:

The thing with the IS-7 is that a lot of people say that it isn't used as much in clan battles. Also, isn't the E-100 also quite versatile?

I find the E100 to be very versatile it has great armor when angled properly and is very mobile for its size and armor (mobile enough to get to needed spots in time) and it has amazing skirt armor on its sides which will soak up HE shells and arty splash damage making just your tracks and gun getting damaged from arties if splashed from the side. It also has one of the most powerful guns on a tank with enough penetration (with standard ap shells) to kill anything you face (frontally and sides/rear) with only the Maus and T92 tank destroyer giving trouble (you will have to aim with it though)

I haven't played the IS7 so I can't comment on if its more versatile (or anything else) but from playing against them it seems like it plays like a heavy medium tank (its pretty darn fast and is good at getting to places before other enemy heavies do being able to hold off the mediums tanks while are heavies get there to help)....but  honestly when driving my Maus or E100 I don't fear them.


Overall I think the E100 is best but there all pretty balanced (expect t30 seems to be sucky now that e100 is here with the 150mm gun cause t30 has no armor at tier ten besides turret)

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Go German or US, the most fun to play




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