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Entwicklung Series Standardpanzer E75

OddKilla's Photo OddKilla Dec 01 2011

View PostSealteam6, on Dec 01 2011 - 09:00, said:

Crikey, I hope their not going to ruin a good Tank, did a lot of grinding & XP conversion to get this Tank, now it will be worthless, The E50 too I saw was mentioned, that would be a very very sad day.
I think we may be safe, read post #14 in that TFH.

I think that if they remove tier 10 guns from all tier 9 heavies it would be acceptable, but the top gun in the E75 is already weaker than the IS4's, so the argument could be made that the IS4 gets nerfed more, and we know that WG doesn't do a lot of nerfing on Russian rides. In fact the top ISx tanks are getting buffed armor with 7.0.
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Totens's Photo Totens Dec 01 2011

What's your rectile setup, apt? I cannot get anything close.
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theaptpupil's Photo theaptpupil Dec 02 2011

sorry? I dont follow your definition of the word rectile
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Kristine's Photo Kristine Dec 02 2011

I think he's talking about the crosshair you're using on your tanks....although...rectile? :lol:
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sr360's Photo sr360 Dec 02 2011

I think he means "reticle"
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Totens's Photo Totens Dec 03 2011

View Postsr360, on Dec 02 2011 - 21:58, said:

I think he means "reticle"

Sorry, I meant reticle. Interested in your setup. Thanks.
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theaptpupil's Photo theaptpupil Dec 05 2011

oh, reticle makes more sense.


http://games.nicolas...-mods/overcross
thats the reticle. It works for every tank except the artillery in satellite view, which goes back to the default UI
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Toasted_Rofls's Photo Toasted_Rofls Dec 05 2011

I have been playing the E-75 even more, in fact, it is the tank I am playing the most, I just can't help myself. If I want to turn my platoons loosing streak around, I generally have to give up on playing the little tanks and arty and pull out a tank that can take on the enemy teams tier 10 tank after ours pulls a dumb pub and charges into the open. This tank will change the game if played properly.

Anyhow, some more observations:

-I tested it, the upper glacis will bounce point blank BL-10 shots about 75% of the time. Basically, if they are not using gold, they are not going to be getting through your top plate with a little bit of angle on you.

-The lower glacis kicks ass compared to most tanks, but it is still the easy button. If you use the terrain to hide it by backing your rear upwards, you reduce the slope on your frontal glacis enough to allow some bigger guns to pen it, and the top of your turret because much more vulnerable. On the other hand, the lower glacis becomes un-hitable.

-128 rakes in money (I regularly get 15,000K profit on losses)  and has absurd alpha and pen. However, you need to make your shots count, as your reload time is awful. Remember, the round caps out at 613 alpha and 308 pen on the best possible role. 308 pen will go through the top glacis of a Maus if it is not angled, and 613 alpha will seriously f*** up any smaller tanks. Of course, the average of 246 pen and 490 alpha is still amazing, so even your shots which do not role perfectly are going to generally ruin someones day.

-This gun is not consistent at range, it gets a lot of retarded "ping" and then nothing else happened hits. Also, somehow, it can bounce off some crazy stuff occasionally, but that happens to every gun, its just more evident when your gun fires so slowly. Your shot doing nothing is going to hurt you alot more than it would an Easy 8 with its machine gun cannon.

-Everyone will shoot you first. In fact, sometimes, arty will shoot you over a tier 10 tank or a tank at easy one-hit range. Apparently, some people think you are worth more than that friendly IS-7 sitting out in the open. Its rare, but it does happen. Also, all the little tanks are going to swarm you while you are occupied, because they want to be the ones to kill the dreaded E-75, and unlike the IS-4, they can actually pen your sides.

-Speaking of sides, your side armor is weaker than your rear armor, which is capable of bounce 180 pen guns, believe it or not. I bet those Type 59 drivers who thought they could just auto-aim my ass at point blank range didn't. Keep your entire tank angled and keep your sides hidden or at an extreme angle if you find yourself surrounded.

-Sides of the turret are a easy target for smart drivers of tanks with 170+ pen guns. Front of your turret is a easy pen if the enemy is using a tier 9 TD or gold rounds, it is not angles, and they don't roll low. Basically, what I am saying is keep the front of your turret pointed at the enemy at all times.

-The tank is extremely mobile for the size if you discount the average top speed.

-Gun depression is very, very good compared to lower tier German tanks. I'm looking at you, Panther and PZ IV. You can use small depressions and inclines in the terrain to hull down sometimes. Your turret has a small profile and a ton of armor if it is pointed directly at the target, enough so that if you are at moderate or great distances, the only thing you really need to fear the Jagdtigers gun.

-Lots-o-HP and overall armor means you can take alot of punishment.

-If a Loltraktor shoots at your turret, there is a 75% chance you will loose your gun. It is unbelievable how easy it is to loose your gun. Seriously, they need to fix it, its just stupid.

-Arty will still ruin your day, because arty are dicks. Yeah, you must feel like a big man, sitting in a bush at the end of the map, dropping 2000 alpha shots on my tank just because I tried to get behind another rock and got spotted. F*** you arty, stop shooting at my beloved German heavy tanks. I take much joy when I oneshot you back, you know that? And yes, I have been oneshotted by arty from 100% in my E-75 before.

-Lolcamo on this tank. If you think the enemy might be able to see you, they have seen you.

-Everyone always says to run Spall Liner, but I instead am running Vertical Stabilizers, a Rammer, and Vents. I have found this set up works best. Because this is an up-close an personal type of tank, and because I never, ever go where arty can hit me easily, if at all, while I am in this tank, the only reason to run spall liner is because people love to spam HE, and in the up-coming patch, HE is getting nerfed and spamming it out of my Easy 8 to troll stuff will no longer be as effective, and my VK 2801 will no longer be able to reliably take off 9% of an IS-4's health from shooting it in the front and get a 50% chance to do critical damage. Sad face. Anyhow, the vert stab is going to help you take snap shots much better and help reduce your aim time back down to a reasonable level.

I really love this tank, it is fantastic. You can finally give the finger to those IS-4's that always picked on your helpless little VK3601H by bouncing there shots killing them in a few of your own that pen the front of it. Also, this thing is making me tons of money, and I have gotten three 1,000+ EXP losses in it. Basically, this thing just dominates. It makes money, wins games, and is fun to play. What else could you really ask for?
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Sealteam6's Photo Sealteam6 Dec 05 2011

Well Toastie, I gotta say, that was a brilliant article you put together, would of taken you some time but was very well worth it, I could not agree more, the E75 is the Crown Jewel of the heavy lines, light on its Tracks, Fast with Great Armour & Gun, the perfect well balanced killing machine.

I Run VS, Rammer & GLD on mine.

+1 for the Effort you put in.
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Ernstwombat's Photo Ernstwombat Dec 05 2011

Just wanna Share my UPGRADED Tier 10 E75 with 128 L/68
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i dont like maus nor E100....if they give some booster....E75/90 with be jsut fine at T10.

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Sealteam6's Photo Sealteam6 Dec 05 2011

View PostErnstwombat, on Dec 05 2011 - 10:59, said:

Just wanna Share my UPGRADED Tier 10 E75 with 128 L/68
:)

i dont like maus nor E100....if they give some booster....E75/90 with be jsut fine at T10.

LMAO I want one, post pics when its finished, would love to see it.
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Totens's Photo Totens Dec 05 2011

View Posttheaptpupil, on Dec 05 2011 - 07:50, said:

oh, reticle makes more sense.


http://games.nicolas...-mods/overcross
thats the reticle. It works for every tank except the artillery in satellite view, which goes back to the default UI

Thanks. Appreciated.
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khoidohuy's Photo khoidohuy Dec 06 2011

which is best equipment for E75. i have rammer and spall liner, what should i buy next?
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Sealteam6's Photo Sealteam6 Dec 06 2011

View Postkhoidohuy, on Dec 06 2011 - 09:37, said:

which is best equipment for E75. i have rammer and spall liner, what should i buy next?

Everyone's different in what they like, I use Rammer, VS & GLD, The same config on my E100.
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SeanPwnery's Photo SeanPwnery Dec 06 2011

*sigh*

I wish I could share the sentiments of the E-75... but then again, I'm halfway stock so I'll just stick it out. /stock-tank-syndrome-rant  :Smile-hiding:

After getting the Maus, I wanted to see "if the grass was greener" with the E-100. I recall having so much trouble with E-75s no matter what I threw at them (JagdTiger, Maus, Type-59's, KT's.... etc) so the thought of using one on the way to the 100 was enticing. I got it last night, added my 2nd engine and 105 from the KT, the rammer and the vents.

This tank feels soooo painfully slow. I was really hoping to skip the last engine since the E-100 has a different variant anyway, but from the praises of this thread, it might be something I should go ahead and get if I plan to experience the same levels of joy out of it.

I made the mistake of playing the tank bone stock just once just to see what it was like, and to be honest, it was intolerable.

I do enjoy hearing the shells bounce off the front end a heck of a lot more than they did when I was on my 4502B (and less chance of engine fires too!).
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OddKilla's Photo OddKilla Dec 06 2011

View PostSeanPwnery, on Dec 06 2011 - 21:20, said:

*sigh* I got it last night, added my 2nd engine and 105 from the KT, the rammer and the vents.

This tank feels soooo painfully slow. I was really hoping to skip the last engine since the E-100 has a different variant anyway, but from the praises of this thread, it might be something I should go ahead and get if I plan to experience the same levels of joy out of it.

I made the mistake of playing the tank bone stock just once just to see what it was like, and to be honest, it was intolerable.

I do enjoy hearing the shells bounce off the front end a heck of a lot more than they did when I was on my 4502B (and less chance of engine fires too!).
IMO all stock tanks suck so bad they are nearly intolerable, the IS-1 comes to mind as a possible exception but the point stands. I was lucky enough to have not only the 2nd engine and long 105 from the KT but also the 3rd engine from the E-50. That engine really livens it up a lot. Adding the 128 makes this thing a credit earner even with a loss. I'm not qualified to talk about Maus vs E-100 comparisons but I'd rather fight an E-100 with the E-75 than a Maus, while i can outmaneuver either one that Maus is a hard egg to crack.
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Toasted_Rofls's Photo Toasted_Rofls Dec 07 2011

If you do not have the top engine and tracks I will refuse all attempts for you to try to convince me that the mobility is truly bad.

It actually out-performs my King Tiger I think it terms of all aspects of mobility with the top tracks and top engine.
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Sealteam6's Photo Sealteam6 Dec 07 2011

Toasted is right Sean, the E75 is a beast & very very high in the maneuverability stakes with the big engine & tracks, its Super light on the fingers, like its got power steering & very responsive off the mark, its a Tank you would want to keep, even if the E100 is your target, if there was a Tier 9 heavy dominatrix, the E75 is your girl, it has all the attributes of what makes a Tank great.

The guys are right, all stock Tanks suck so bad, I refuse to take one out now until its fully tricked, I got burnt with the Ferdi, JT & KT when they were stock, never again.
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SeanPwnery's Photo SeanPwnery Dec 07 2011

View PostSealteam6, on Dec 07 2011 - 03:57, said:

Toasted is right Sean, the E75 is a beast & very very high in the maneuverability stakes with the big engine & tracks, its Super light on the fingers, like its got power steering & very responsive off the mark, its a Tank you would want to keep, even if the E100 is your target, if there was a Tier 9 heavy dominatrix, the E75 is your girl, it has all the attributes of what makes a Tank great.

I played it a bit more last night, and there were definitely moments of brilliance. Compared to the 4502B which I sold the first chance I got, I think I'm in agreement that I'll probably keep the E-75 once fully upgraded and just add another garage slot for the 100.

One tank that really stood out to me that was decent even in stock form would probably have been the JagdPanther, but as most of you said already... most suck.  :lol:
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theaptpupil's Photo theaptpupil Dec 08 2011

without the 128mm or the engine- but definitely both- the E-75 is a hard tank
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