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Katamariguy1 #1 Posted Nov 14 2011 - 13:11

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Wanted a place to talk about such things, but considering what I've seen of the fandom...  :Smile-hiding:

Anyway, most fictional tanks seem to be dreadfully designed. Take the Scorpion tank of Halo fame.

http://images1.wikia...ch_Scorpion.png

Loook at the paper armor, unnecessarily large windows, and huge turret. The treads are extremely vulnerable. The only thing going for it is its incredible gun.

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Webtroll #2 Posted Nov 14 2011 - 17:28

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Planetside has some nice tanks. The Vanguard; heavily armored and the gun packs a whallop. The Magrider; light armor but able to glide over water, rail gun does much less damage but has pinpoint accuracy.

js23 #3 Posted Nov 14 2011 - 18:33

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Who can forget the mammoth tank from c&c actually looks semi possible to build, better that the tanks ea came up with  <_<

Mow_Mow #4 Posted Nov 14 2011 - 20:38

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Rule of cool.

The headlights on that Halo tank seem to be more armored than the turret ring...

Engine_of_War #5 Posted Nov 14 2011 - 21:27

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Remember, fictional tanks are ment to look awesome while kicking butt, the technical stuff adn practicallity sometimes just ain't there.

Heck Warhammer 40k has loads of fictional tanks.

Who could forget the Engine of Destruction the Baneblade and its varients?
http://209.85.122.83...Baneblade01.jpg

armor that can stop the the largest of shells and enough guns to start and end a world war. plus its gigantic.
Standard Baneblade is a massive main gun with a rocket assisted shell (don't know caliber, best guess on my end is 150mm which would be appropriate) a coaxial auto cannon (20 or 30mm) standard is 3 "twin linked" heavy bolters, aka paired bolters which are small rocket launchers in their own right, a Demolisher cannon (large bore siege cannon) and a pair of lascannons (anti armor laser weapons).  

its powerplant is allegedly a Plasma Reactor to run the monster.

If it wasn't for its increadible size and weight the Baneblade is the most "practical" and closest to modern tanks then its counter parts in WArhammer 40k.

Dominatus #6 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 04:00

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View PostEngine_of_War, on Nov 14 2011 - 21:27, said:

Remember, fictional tanks are ment to look awesome while kicking butt, the technical stuff adn practicallity sometimes just ain't there.

Heck Warhammer 40k has loads of fictional tanks.

Who could forget the Engine of Destruction the Baneblade and its varients?
http://209.85.122.83...Baneblade01.jpg

armor that can stop the the largest of shells and enough guns to start and end a world war. plus its gigantic.
Standard Baneblade is a massive main gun with a rocket assisted shell (don't know caliber, best guess on my end is 150mm which would be appropriate) a coaxial auto cannon (20 or 30mm) standard is 3 "twin linked" heavy bolters, aka paired bolters which are small rocket launchers in their own right, a Demolisher cannon (large bore siege cannon) and a pair of lascannons (anti armor laser weapons).  

its powerplant is allegedly a Plasma Reactor to run the monster.

If it wasn't for its increadible size and weight the Baneblade is the most "practical" and closest to modern tanks then its counter parts in WArhammer 40k.

I forget. Was the Baneblade multi-fuel? Because the Leman Russ (standard Imperial Giard tank, for those that don't know) I recall could run on anything from a nuclear reaction to burning wood.

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Engine_of_War #8 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 04:32

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View PostDominatus, on Nov 15 2011 - 04:00, said:

I forget. Was the Baneblade multi-fuel? Because the Leman Russ (standard Imperial Giard tank, for those that don't know) I recall could run on anything from a nuclear reaction to burning wood.


i got it wrong, its a "MR507 v18 p4 multi-fuel" engine aka a V-18 engine capable of running on nigh anything and thats the "Mars pattern", in short the version built on Mars in the 40k lore.

I think it carries a Reactor if its a different varient like teh Shadowsword (anti Super/ultra heavy tank with super lazercannon called the volcano cannon that has ahuge power requirement)

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Come to think of it, the Maus and Ratte show that truth is less sane than fiction.

Anyway, what kind of incredible strong alloy does skynet use for armor? Can a modern MBT even stand up to an HK?

Landsraad #10 Posted Nov 15 2011 - 13:33

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View Postjs23, on Nov 14 2011 - 18:33, said:

Who can forget the mammoth tank from c&c actually looks semi possible to build, better that the tanks ea came up with  <_<
Eh, I'm actually rather fond of the newer Mammoth Mk.III, Predator, and Flame Tank III. There's just something about the style of the game and its vehicles that sort of clicks with me. And from the Warhammer side of things the Leman Russ and Hammerhead are always awesome, but ESPECIALLY all those neat Leman Russ variants.

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c&c red alert apocalypse tank pwns them all.why is that?its russian. :Smile-playing: the M- harpoon/grinder treads can be nasty combined with its dual 125mm cannons tho.http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080728114937/cnc/images/thumb/f/f4/Red_Alert_3_Apoc_Tank.jpg/830px-Red_Alert_3_Apoc_Tank.jpgspecs linky

Captain_Karen #12 Posted Nov 16 2011 - 01:01

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Hey, there are stats for the WH40K Predator's armor.

Hull: 55mm (I assume it's 55/55/55)
Mantlet: 65mm
Turret: 65mm (65/65/65)

And the Baneblade. Lucius pattern, as it is more heavily armored than Mars pattern.

Hull: 180mm (180/180/180)
Mantlet: 180mm
Turret: 220mm (220/220/220)

Why so low? The Baneblade could be a respectable tier 10 armor wise, but the Predator is barely more armored than a Sherman. Let's hope their materials are tougher than today's.

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Remember that the Pred is made out of "adamantium" and ceramite. Added to the fact that it's designed for speed and maneuverability. A Leman Russ on the other hand, is designed to take hits and dish out damage.

As to the exact values, the rulebook may give you a better idea of how front/side/rear is compared to each other. I doubt the Baneblade has the same armour all around.

Spectre12078 #14 Posted Nov 19 2011 - 08:17

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Harabecs Predator

And my Myrmidon.Dual rail cannons,UAP,Repair,Agrav,Quick silver armor,'Brid computer,long range sensors,micro reactor...

I was an ankle biting demon  :Smile-playing:


However..I do want a HellHammer

apparently I cant post pics anymore. Nice.

Mr_0norman #15 Posted Nov 22 2011 - 19:48

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Here's a site that I check every once in a while, it has some pretty cool designs.
http://concepttanks.blogspot.com/

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how bout star wars tanks? T2B is bsically a light anks, but w/ lasers, T4B is a mammoth knock off/refference(half of empire at war's team were former C&C guys.) with lasers ad missiles.

then theres the empire's walkers that would lag the shit out of the game if they moved one leg.

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how bout star wars tanks? T2B is basically a light tank, but w/ lasers, T4B is a mammoth knock off/refference(half of empire at war's team were former C&C guys.) with lasers ad missiles.

then theres the empire's walkers that would lag the shit out of the game if they moved one leg.

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oops, double post. stupid phone.

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View Postmastergenera1, on Nov 15 2011 - 15:59, said:

c&c red alert apocalypse tank pwns them all.why is that?its russian. :Smile-playing: the M- harpoon/grinder treads can be nasty combined with its dual 125mm cannons tho.http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080728114937/cnc/images/thumb/f/f4/Red_Alert_3_Apoc_Tank.jpg/830px-Red_Alert_3_Apoc_Tank.jpgspecs linky
No apparent way to reload this tank though. And where do you keep the ammo?

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Standard Baneblade is a massive main gun with a rocket assisted shell (don't know caliber, best guess on my end is 150mm which would be appropriate) a coaxial auto cannon (20 or 30mm)
Have you compared the size of those guns with the crew/dimesnions of the vehicle?  Remember that a person can basically stand up in the turret, and that barrel is only slightly smaller than the turret. The autocannon is probably in the 100mm range, with the main gun around ~300mm at least.  The demolisher cannon, of course, is even bigger.  No, I do <I>not</I> know where they keep the ammo...

View PostWildstorm, on Nov 16 2011 - 01:01, said:

Hey, there are stats for the WH40K Predator's armor.

Hull: 55mm (I assume it's 55/55/55)
Mantlet: 65mm
Turret: 65mm (65/65/65)

And the Baneblade. Lucius pattern, as it is more heavily armored than Mars pattern.

Hull: 180mm (180/180/180)
Mantlet: 180mm
Turret: 220mm (220/220/220)

Why so low? The Baneblade could be a respectable tier 10 armor wise, but the Predator is barely more armored than a Sherman. Let's hope their materials are tougher than today's.
Their materials are <I>much</I> tougher than todays (which, of course, are tougher than those of WWII).  In one of the books, a Leman Russ (which is not light) is thrown a meter or so sideways by an impact that fails to penetrate.  The Predator, meanwhile, has less armor (still 40k era armor, even if not actually solid adamantium), but remember that it is essentially a Warhammerverse light tank, converted from an APC/utility vehicle.

The real strength of the Baneblade, meanwhile, is more in its 'rolling fortress' nature.  It has a giant turret gun (with a coax that could scrap a Maus in 1-2 shots), yes... but it also has nine other weapons.  Minimum.  Two of these other weapons are armor-piercing laser cannons.  Trouble killing those pesky light tanks that keep running around, evading your bullets because you can't quite figure out the lead?  Well, worry no more, because you've got lasers on your side.  Or just use the bolters, because it's a fully automatic rocket propelled grenade launcher, and that's really enough.

Also, let's not forget about the Baneblade's other variants.  Like the Shadowsword, which is basically a TD (Titan-Destroyer) variant, replacing most of its armament with a monolithic fixed laser cannon designed to penetrate the heavy shields and armor of battle titans.  Or the Stormsword, which replaces that Volcano Cannon with a massive howitzer firing tactical nuclear warheads.  It's used for house clearing, becaue that's how the Imperium rolls.  (Note that this is a <I>downgrade</I> from the Shadowsword and Stormblade (giant plasma cannon), but still awesome.)

It should also be noted that Imperial Armour is well known for being, really, really lowball in its statistics compared to the books (and even the codices!).

In any event, I'd personally rather have a Hammerhead, at least over a Leman Russ.  Ridiculously long range gun with more penetration than a porno?  And it flies?  Yes please.