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blautiger #1 Posted Dec 04 2011 - 14:39

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the binocular telescope said it +25% on viewing range up to 500 meters for stationary.

The Coated optics said +10% on viewing range.  


So of you have a vehicle that has a viewing range of 460m or more.  Getting the coated optics will cover both the moving and stationary?  Of course the coated optics are no removable without gold.  In this cause here having both will not improve viewing performance?

Tsupernami #2 Posted Dec 04 2011 - 14:48

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Ignore the 500m for now. Assume you can see up to 700m. Camo works as a way of reducing your viewing range as a percentile. If for example they can reduce it to 50%, then it goes down to 350m viewing range of your tank.

Now picture 1000m viewing range, and you have 40% camo reduction, that means they have 600m viewing range for spotting you. But this is the number that is limited to 500m, not the previous one.

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View PostTsupernami, on Dec 04 2011 - 14:48, said:

Ignore the 500m for now. Assume you can see up to 700m. Camo works as a way of reducing your viewing range as a percentile. If for example they can reduce it to 50%, then it goes down to 350m viewing range of your tank.

Now picture 1000m viewing range, and you have 40% camo reduction, that means they have 600m viewing range for spotting you. But this is the number that is limited to 500m, not the previous one.


O.k. I understand what you are saying.  But does it make sense to have both the binocular telescope and coated optics?  So what happen if you have both? are they additive for stationary vehicles?  For example you have 100m meter viewing range.  You have +10 from the coated optics then +25 from the binocular you have a total of +35% or a total of 135m. And if you are looking at a vehicle that have a camo of 35% reduction you will not see it unless it is less than 100m away from you.  Is that how it works?

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Some folks say that they can see the difference of having both stacked, others not so much. But there are reasons for having either one or both installed. The following threads have some interesting viewpoints and facts, regarding optics and their uses.

Binocular Telescope and Coated Optic Discussion

Equipment Descriptions

Battle Mechanics


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Tsupernami #5 Posted Dec 04 2011 - 16:52

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View Postblautiger, on Dec 04 2011 - 16:18, said:

O.k. I understand what you are saying.  But does it make sense to have both the binocular telescope and coated optics?  So what happen if you have both? are they additive for stationary vehicles?  For example you have 100m meter viewing range.  You have +10 from the coated optics then +25 from the binocular you have a total of +35% or a total of 135m. And if you are looking at a vehicle that have a camo of 35% reduction you will not see it unless it is less than 100m away from you.  Is that how it works?
You would see them as 65% of your 135m (About 85mm - guesstimate). But then, moving and shooting removes their camo work, so then you would see anything up to 135m again instead of the previous 100m. So each is worth it depending on playstyle. If you find you move a lot, don't get binoculars. If you find you snipe a lot, but tend to be on the front line, hiding, get them.

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Echo_Sniper #7 Posted Dec 04 2011 - 23:59

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Yes they do work together, but on the base bonus.

For instance, take a fully upgraded Patton with 480 meters view range. The Patton has binoculars and coated optics.

Coated optics provides a 10% bonus view range on the move. So 480*0.1=48. 480+48=528. Now the 28 meters beyond 500 is a bonus to camo detection given to the Patton player.

Binocular gives a 25% bonus when on full stop for at least 6 seconds. So 480*0.25=120. 480+120=600.

Meaning that 48+120+480=648 meters view range. The  148 meters over 500 meters is a bonus given the camo detection within the 500 meters. Meaning that you will detect hidden targets with much more ease than someone without.

Gary007 #8 Posted Dec 06 2011 - 04:05

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Yeah what you guys say is correct I run my Patton with both binoculars and optics in the end I just run with optics because I need my tank to preform on other levels. Why i choose to dump binoculars was because of tank,it needs to be on the move all the time and optics filled that role.

SumiXam #9 Posted Dec 06 2011 - 18:03

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View PostEcho_Sniper, on Dec 04 2011 - 23:59, said:

Yes they do work together, but on the base bonus.

For instance, take a fully upgraded Patton with 480 meters view range. The Patton has binoculars and coated optics.

Coated optics provides a 10% bonus view range on the move. So 480*0.1=48. 480+48=528. Now the 28 meters beyond 500 is a bonus to camo detection given to the Patton player.

Binocular gives a 25% bonus when on full stop for at least 6 seconds. So 480*0.25=120. 480+120=600.

Meaning that 48+120+480=648 meters view range. The  148 meters over 500 meters is a bonus given the camo detection within the 500 meters. Meaning that you will detect hidden targets with much more ease than someone without.

^This is a good explanation. I run my Panther with coated optics and binocs to aid in detecting those wily camo tanks.

ThomasFranz67 #10 Posted Dec 10 2011 - 16:13

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View PostEcho_Sniper, on Dec 04 2011 - 23:59, said:

Yes they do work together, but on the base bonus.

For instance, take a fully upgraded Patton with 480 meters view range. The Patton has binoculars and coated optics.

Coated optics provides a 10% bonus view range on the move. So 480*0.1=48. 480+48=528. Now the 28 meters beyond 500 is a bonus to camo detection given to the Patton player.

Binocular gives a 25% bonus when on full stop for at least 6 seconds. So 480*0.25=120. 480+120=600.

Meaning that 48+120+480=648 meters view range. The  148 meters over 500 meters is a bonus given the camo detection within the 500 meters. Meaning that you will detect hidden targets with much more ease than someone without.


Good Explanation. So a Sniper in a TD would greatly benefit from using both, Binos and Optics. I only wished, there were more equipment slots.