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kGram #1 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:00

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I'm looking at the Type 59 tank, and by all characteristics, it based of t-54, which is a Tier 9.

How is that Type 59 is Tier 8?

PS: I also think that if it were Tier 9, Tiers 4 and 5, which suffer the most from it, wouldn't see it as much.

Mewn #2 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:06

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It's a Premium tank and as such gets better matchmaking. It's also nowhere near as good as a T-54, and arguably is worse than a T-44.

And given the players I've seen driving the Type-59 lately, even an MS-1 should have no troubles with them.

tankboy1138 #3 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:06

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Because the stats are COMPLETELY different. T-54 has more hit points, harder-hitting, better armored, has a better radio, much better engine.... I could go on. Real life has nothing to do with this game honestly. SIMILARITIES may exist, but that's it.

Dye #4 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:19

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The only thing a Type 59 does better than a T-54 is make credits.  I have a Type and the gun is weak, its not very fast, and if you fight someone who knows that they are doing, you die pretty easy.

GenericSoldier #5 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:23

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well first off its Chinese...

which means that its a cheap knock off from the real soviet thing.

tankboy1138 #6 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:39

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View PostGenericSoldier, on Dec 17 2011 - 03:23, said:

well first off its Chinese...

which means that its a cheap knock off from the real soviet thing.

:lol: THAT made my day!

fsjd #7 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 03:55

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it gets better MM than otehr equivilant tanks, can decimate anything below it, bounce anything below short of HE, AND thee are at least 3-8 of these things per match. side with the most T59s wins due to massive wolfpack.

TheDawg #8 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 04:12

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View PostGenericSoldier, on Dec 17 2011 - 03:23, said:

well first off its Chinese...

which means that its a cheap knock off from the real soviet thing.

I got a nasty note from a mod when I made a very similar crack.



as to the OP...this is a fascinating topic that hasn't been discussed nearly enough.

Honcho #9 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 08:16

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View PostTheDawg, on Dec 17 2011 - 04:12, said:

as to the OP...this is a fascinating topic that hasn't been discussed nearly enough.


I agree

I believe the T59 is performing quite admirably the role it was designed for
which is to discourage "free to play" players.

Monkits #10 Posted Dec 17 2011 - 09:39

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From what I'm told, T59 is primarily a coin mint.

sampak #11 Posted Dec 18 2011 - 09:31

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View Postfsjd, on Dec 17 2011 - 03:55, said:

it gets better MM than otehr equivilant tanks, can decimate anything below it, bounce anything below short of HE, AND thee are at least 3-8 of these things per match. side with the most T59s wins due to massive wolfpack.

Not true, it does get 'favorable matchmaking' as far as not being in battles with Tier 10 tanks. However, packs of these do not regularly decimate opposing teams due to most people being used to such basic tactics and the team wtih T59 packs usually loses or wins depending entirely on skill of said players. Personally I've been on many teams going against T59s, and the T59 team lost BADLY because there was no organization, OR my team played a little smart at the start of the battle, held off the rush and defended well, winning the round against them.

It's using a tier 7 gun, a 107mm with 167mm pen, which at tier 8 is barely enough to reliably penetrate tier 8 heavies, so it's only really good against other mediums and lower tiers. It's side and rear armor as are soft as any US medium, and shooting the back of the tank and turret can usually cause an ammo rack boom or fire.

MaxMike #12 Posted Dec 20 2011 - 00:01

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It is not a tier 9 tank because it is not good enough to be a a tier 9 tank It is a mediocre tier 8 medium that gets better matchmaking.

2_minutes_hate #13 Posted Dec 20 2011 - 00:09

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DRINK. And I believe the MM honeymoon is over. Its just a pisspoor version os a T-44, that makes credits.

Nine3 #14 Posted Dec 20 2011 - 17:00

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The Type 59 is actually a little better than the T44. It bounces a lot more shots than the T44 does. I think this is because it uses the T54 body. The T44 has better acceleration but thats about it.

The T54 is much better, but the T54 gets in *much* harder matches. A T54 match has 2-6 tier 10s and 3-4 big arty.

BaronJaeger #15 Posted Dec 20 2011 - 17:25

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View PostMewn, on Dec 17 2011 - 03:06, said:

It's a Premium tank and as such gets better matchmaking.

So this explains why my Ram II gets thrown in tier 8 an 9 matches 90% of the time? <_<

Hihibob #16 Posted Dec 20 2011 - 18:37

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I say the Type 59 is better than the T44. I can pen T44s easily and proceed to eat them alive in my Pershing. But with the Type 59, I actually have to out smart them.  <_<

And then of course for every one you kill, another 50 come in it's place.




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