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luk1111 #1 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:40

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A 100 ton Goliath. Inching it's way across the battlefield at less then 5km/h. With an outstanding frontal armor of, 75mm?
Yes this unstoppable WWI monster, seems feeble compared to any WWI tank with about 75mm of frontal armor and 50mm of side armor, as well as 2 105 hp engines providing the power to move it. And guess what? The largest gun on this gun is believed by 1 source to be a 75-millimetre 13-pounder gun; other sources state it as a 57-millimetre 6-pounder gun.

I think we may have a new tier 4 or 5 premium.
Then again it was a end of WWI tank so it may be too early.



What do you think?

(Edit: I should have also said how huge this thing was, 8.36 m long, 3 m long, 3 m tall; that's nearly as big as a Maus.)

Brawl987 #2 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:43

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Eew.

Gigaton #3 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:46

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Best tank is best. Tank designers should have never jumped on the dull FT-17 bandwagon anyway. Turrets? Bah!

whitettiger #4 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:46

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Im not so sure it seams like a really crappy hetzer exept the hetzer is faster, has more armor bcause of the slope, has better guns, and has a reputation in low tiers. The only way I see this being useful is if you got a wall of them to block of a street in ensk or himlesdorf. I sure wouldn't buy it even if I bought gold

Fattty #5 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:47

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That is the love child of my JT and a twinkie.

amade #6 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 04:57

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Well the premium tier 4 B2 heavy only has 60mm armor (sloped front, though the sides aren't sloped) and only a 47mm gun. And still it's a really good tank at tier IV.

If those guns at the side could work and has a caliber of at least 37mm it might be a feasible tier 4 heavy, though the speed will have to be buffed up a bit.

Dominatus #7 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 09:13

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View Postamade, on Dec 31 2011 - 04:57, said:

Well the premium tier 4 B2 heavy only has 60mm armor (sloped front, though the sides aren't sloped) and only a 47mm gun. And still it's a really good tank at tier IV.

If those guns at the side could work and has a caliber of at least 37mm it might be a feasible tier 4 heavy, though the speed will have to be buffed up a bit.

The guns are either up to 57mm or 75mm, but you must remember that these are WWI era guns. It's not the same high-powered 6pdr mounted on the Churchill and Cromwell tanks.

amade #8 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 09:40

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View PostDominatus, on Dec 31 2011 - 09:13, said:

The guns are either up to 57mm or 75mm

No, it's really 47mm. I'm talking about the premium B2 in-game, PzKpfw B2 740(f) which uses the 47mm SA 35 L/34. It doesn't have the howitzer.

Dominatus #9 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 10:16

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View Postamade, on Dec 31 2011 - 09:40, said:

No, it's really 47mm. I'm talking about the premium B2 in-game, PzKpfw B2 740(f) which uses the 47mm SA 35 L/34. It doesn't have the howitzer.

I meant on the Flying Elefant. The caliber of the gun means little in terms of how much it can penetrate, is what I was getting at.

FreeFOXMIKE #10 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 10:22

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http://www.landships...in/Elephant.jpg


http://www.landships...vington - 1.jpg

http://www.landships...-MAIN_small.jpg

http://www.landships...d_flyeleph1.htm

Nisae #11 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 10:31

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T-28.

You have met your competitor in bridge blocking.

Teru #12 Posted Dec 31 2011 - 17:37

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Don't mock the T-28 it's completely legit especially with everything upgraded to the max

SeanPwnery #13 Posted Jan 01 2012 - 09:34

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I've suggested this one a few times in the past... might as well get people started early on heavy's ... make this a tier 3 heavy.  :Smile-izmena:

Skygunner #14 Posted Jan 01 2012 - 16:38

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This is something that I have always wanted.  I do hope that Wargamming puts it in.


One of the things that is actually slightly funny is that thanks to the new HE physics, this tank will be quite the champ at taking artillery rounds, suggesting they hit the roof.  This is not by accident, the British designed the top to be artillery bouncy after seeing things like Mark V's being gutted by fire after an artillery strike.

Its gun will really make or break this tank, persoanlly, I'm fine with the weaker 6pdr.  Firstly this isn't the 6pdr that you find on the Churchill, sorry. (Though that would be amazing).  It's the 6 pounder QF Hotchkiss.  A very light naval gun from the late 1880's.  Don't let age fool you, shells are still shells.  Modified with a longer barrel, this will be enough to deal with Tier IV and lower tanks.   At 15 rpm, it wont be the fastest firing gun, however as long as you play smart, should be fine.

Flanking is the obvious way to defeat said flying Elephant as it lacks a turret.  Activating it's MG's woulddn't be so effective as they were (probably) Hotchkiss M1909s.  That being said, the M1909 is the same gun as the Whippet (Which I personally see as capable of being the British Tier I), so....maybe.  Still, they are just Tier 1 machine guns, and would be very low pen/damage.  It may provide peace of mind, but tracking with the 6pdr, then just shredding your opponent is the best option.

FE is a slug, so once a tank gets around it, catching up so your main gun and destroy it is just not gonna happen.  Again, you will have very heavy armour for your tier, so it may not matter as much.   Avoid tank destroyers, Avoid Lee's........tank will do just fine.

Antosha_ #15 Posted Jan 01 2012 - 18:57

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This thing would be terrible at tier 3,

more like tier 2, given the fact you couldn't really leave your base with it.

maxman1 #16 Posted Jan 25 2012 - 19:08

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If they could design it with all those side guns active (they'll have secondary guns up and ready by Version 8), it would make quite the base defender.

Shermanm1a1 #17 Posted Jan 30 2012 - 23:33

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It would make the T95 feel like a Racehorse. And to see that on the field would make me lol,I probably wouldn't get tired of it either.

ELITE_TANKER #18 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 17:29

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NOOOOOOOOOO wargamming dont put this in as a  heavy that would be the WORST grind ever if it was a tier 4 (just puked sorry) I WILL NEVER GET PASSED TIER 4 heavies if this is in the way..... if you out this in put it in premium so we dont have to suffer through death...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh if you put this in tier 4 ah ah (puked sorry) you know what i mean

razielkaine #19 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 19:19

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no this tank would be useless and will never be seen in the game

ChrisMarsh #20 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 19:59

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Well, 9/10 they'd buff the speed on the Flying Elephant, case in point being FT-17, which in it's Mle 1927 version could still only hit 8km/h (4 Mph) so the fact of it going 5 km/h is a moot point. idk, If it's better than Whippet I'll play it  :Smile_great: