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What do you think Centurion tank is gonna be like and what role it will play in WOT


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11sparky11 #21 Posted Jan 17 2012 - 23:42

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I wonder what module upgrades will be chosen, there are a LOT of guns and different variants to choose from.  :unsure:

Pongo #22 Posted Jan 18 2012 - 00:12

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What is this centurion you speak of?

vorgra #23 Posted Jan 19 2012 - 12:56

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I can see it being a faster patton, I would be amazing if It could be the e-50's accuracy, but nothing will beat the e-50s ramming capability

razielkaine #24 Posted Jan 19 2012 - 20:52

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I believe with the british rifled barrels they will be very accurate, my understanding is they have stated bit tanks will be tough sniper tanks like their German counterparts

Lisped #25 Posted Jan 29 2012 - 06:05

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gonna get an israeli skin and name it the Sho't Kal

Redwing6 #26 Posted Feb 05 2012 - 21:03

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View Postvorgra, on Jan 19 2012 - 12:56, said:

I can see it being a faster patton, I would be amazing if It could be the e-50's accuracy, but nothing will beat the e-50s ramming capability

uuummm...no! It will be slower than the Patton...because it RL it IS slower than the M46...but it should have a very accurate bang/bang stick.

iRoik #27 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 15:50

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Moved to British Medium Tanks

MrTankFan #28 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 16:35

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View PostRedwing6, on Feb 05 2012 - 21:03, said:

uuummm...no! It will be slower than the Patton...because it RL it IS slower than the M46...but it should have a very accurate bang/bang stick.

I know this isn't speed, but here's the power to weight ratios for all current tier 9's vs. the Centurion. NOTE: these are rough approximations, and it is entirely possible the Centurion could receive an upgraded engine in-game, giving it higher HP/tonne.

T-54: 17.9 HP/tonne
E-50: 18.18 HP/tonne
M-46 Patton: 18.63 HP/tonne
Centurion ~13 HP/tonne

Like I already said, an upgraded engine is a distinct possibility for the Centurion. Still, it would need one heck of an engine to pump its HP/tonne up to the level of the other tier 9 meds. Meanwhile, the Centurion makes up for that by having a maximum of ~150mm armour. For reference, the T-54 and E-50 both have 120mm maximum hull armour. Granted, I don't think the Centurion's slope is quite as good but you get the idea. I think the Centurion will probably be a relatively sluggish, heavily armoured tier 9 medium-heavy hybrid. Kind of like a tier 9 VK 3601(H). At least, I really hope it's like that because it love my medium-heavy hybrids. :Smile_great:

P.S. If someone could find the slope on the Centurion's front plate, that would be great since it would allow for comparisons of effective armour.

Aesir #29 Posted Feb 15 2012 - 05:56

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If we get the Centurion Mk.V, as well as assuming that Gigaton is correct in this post, we are presented with two possibilities with armor:

View PostGigaton, on Feb 04 2012 - 00:12, said:

Actually, it would seem probable our tier 8 Cent will be Mk 1-3 (depending on the state of upgrade) and that our tier 9 Cent will be Mk 5/1-5/2. Assuming we do get two models of Cent.

152mm turret, 76mm glacis (at 57 degrees) that Mk 3 had would be too little for tier 9 (not impressive for tier 8 either), especially considering it's bit low on top speed. Mk 5/1 would have 118mm-122mm (seen both quoted) on the glacis, so nearly ingame T-54 class. Turret armour boost is also possible depending on the mark they choose.

122mm@57°=224mm effective (122mm@51°=194mm effective, w/ normalization)
118mm@57
°=217mm effective (118mm@51°=188mm effective, w/ normalization)

With that, we can see that the Centurion Mk.V would be decently armored. Now to armament, the Centurion Mk.V would have the 105mm L7 at the top. This should be the best 105mm in game, bar none. The gun was the golden standard for service tanks in the West for well over thirty years due to it's fantastic capabilities. Now in game, the 105mm L7 would be overpowered, simply by the grace of it's brilliant penetration in comparison with it's peers (300-400mm pen). However, this can be addressed with either a fictional AP round (241mm pen) or a round based on the American T140's rounds (242-282mm pen).

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The engine would possibly be able to be taken from a later Cent model, much like the T-54 receives a later engine. Turret, suspension, and radio choice is all up to balance really.


With all of that through, I imagine the Centurion Mk.V as being an acceptably mobile, well armored, and well gunned medium tank. Strong enough in all fields to apply itself to any situation that may arise..

death666grim #30 Posted May 28 2012 - 16:44

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View PostPanzerfront, on Jan 02 2012 - 01:32, said:

lol one did yeah. The same tank was used in the vietnam war afterwards too.


The atomic tank

The in-game centurion tank should have a +50% resistance to arty. :Smile-tongue:

169041 is the only tank known to have withstood atomic tests and subsequently gone on for another 23 years of service, including 15 months on operational deployment in a war zone

from wiki about nuclear test on tank

forget soviet med, I will focus on British med line :D

for now, Object 704/Soviet heavy line will keep me busy

off topic, how much xp you need to skip first 5 tier see that it is light tank, and I don't want to go through horror again.

EDITED: I do math and make guess based off other 5 med line. (USA has 2 parallel line that meet into same end)
highest exp is french 450,452 xp from tier 1 to unlock tier 9 stock
lowest exp is Soviet 398,118 xp from tier 1 to unlock tier 9 stock
given average between all 5, I come with 421,585 xp. with 5% margin range from 401,510xp to 442,665xp

bottom line, if you have 450k free xp, you are good as go all way to tier 9 from tier 1

how much it cost you ask? about 16,870 gold total. or  grind 8,431,700 xp to get 5% free xp(16870 battle with 500xp average)

Edited by death666grim, May 29 2012 - 00:32.


joewest2k #31 Posted May 30 2012 - 03:58

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The excellent skill of the Israeli tank crews put together with Centurion is a force not to be reckoned with! The developers must add ISRAELI CREW!!!! :Smile-tongue:

Expect me to use it all the time :Smile-playing:

Timothy48 #32 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 03:56

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I hope the dev's put in the amazing hill climbing ability of the this tank. Since it was discovered in Korea that not only was the Centurion deadly accurate, but could climb hills like a champ.

I would also think that since their going to toss it into the medium line as a tier 9 that it would have engine upgrades available. Not only that, but they might also up gun it too. Just a guess though, but from what I've seen, its a good possibility

Omega_Warrior #33 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 06:07

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It was said in the ASAP video that british tanks were going to be frontline tanks. The centurion will have have similiar mobility to american tanks and about as fast plus have good armor. The only downfall will be that they only have average damage guns.

Edit: Here's a link to the video. I believe they actually show one in game.
http://worldoftanks....-asap-2-part-2/

Edited by Omega_Warrior, Jul 23 2012 - 06:08.


Trophy_Wench #34 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 06:33

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I agree that the Mks. I and III would be combined into one mongoloid tank, as it would allow the Centurion to be competitive with the M26 at tier 8. A stock 17pdr. and upgradable to the 20pdr. would be similar to its American couterpart in terms of firepower and upgrade paths. The Mk. V variants should make for an excellent tier 9 provided that the 105mm L7 would have the same performance to the 105mm M68. Overall, I expect this tank to more or less have the same sort of "jack of all trades and master of none" qualities that made it so good IRL. I can't freakin' wait! :Smile-playing:

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View PostTrophy_Wench, on Jul 23 2012 - 06:33, said:

I agree that the Mks. I and III would be combined into one mongoloid tank, as it would allow the Centurion to be competitive with the M26 at tier 8. A stock 17pdr. and upgradable to the 20pdr. would be similar to its American couterpart in terms of firepower and upgrade paths. The Mk. V variants should make for an excellent tier 9 provided that the 105mm L7 would have the same performance to the 105mm M68. Overall, I expect this tank to more or less have the same sort of "jack of all trades and master of none" qualities that made it so good IRL. I can't freakin' wait! :Smile-playing:

I doubt that Tier 9 cent will have gun performance similar to M68(although they should be the same) 268 pen in Tier 9 medium is just...amazing! I guess the L7 on cent will have make up AP for silver rounds...while the 268 pen APDS round will cost gold...hope that WG will prove me wrong :Smile_mellow:

Trophy_Wench #36 Posted Jul 23 2012 - 15:39

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A tier 9 with a tier 10 gun shouldn't be that big of a deal, given that the tank wouldn't change much between tiers 8 & 9. Centurion would be a glass jawed cannon of sorts and since the tier spread is supposedly going to narrow, we probably wouldn't see tier 9 Centurions with their tier 10 guns beating up on tier 5-6 tanks.

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View PostTheOldGuardian, on Jan 08 2012 - 02:53, said:

It's gonna be an Epic sniper tank, if you want to know why, just ask the Egyptians and the Syrians.

Lol, WoT wouldnt have any tank picking on their poor Russian made tanks...not in WoT...it will be like the German tanks in terms of accuracy....more accurate...on paper anyway..   I have no doubts taht it will be better thenanything on the US or German line now or later....Heck ,if it keeps its armor, it will be THE British tank...beating out the Conqueror and the heavy line....Meds are the way to go in WoT anyway, HTs are just there to help speed along the MT grind....free points anyone?

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If it has it's historical 150 mm of frontal armor it'll easily be the bounciest med(s) in the game. They did say they'd have american-ish mobility and speed with the best med armor and mediocre firepower. I expect the tier 9 version to only do 320 damage per shot while playing like a well armored Patton. Anyone know what their gun depression was like?

razielkaine #39 Posted Jul 31 2012 - 22:09

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found this on another wot thread

"There were some 25 marks of Centurion, with the early marks armed with a 20 pounder gun and all later marks with the outstanding L7 105mm gun. One of the most important versions was the Mark 13, armed with the fully stabilized L7 105mm gun, which had an elevation of +20 degrees, and a depression of -10 degrees in turret with 360 degree traverse. A 0.3in machine gun was mounted co axially with the main armament, with a similar weapon, pintle mounted on the commanders cupola. The Mark 13 also had a 0.5in machine gun for the ranging system. The tank carried 64 rounds of 105mm, 600 rounds of 0.5in and 4,750 rounds of 0.3in ammunition."

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View Postrazielkaine, on Jul 31 2012 - 22:09, said:

found this on another wot thread

"There were some 25 marks of Centurion, with the early marks armed with a 20 pounder gun and all later marks with the outstanding L7 105mm gun. One of the most important versions was the Mark 13, armed with the fully stabilized L7 105mm gun, which had an elevation of +20 degrees, and a depression of -10 degrees in turret with 360 degree traverse. A 0.3in machine gun was mounted co axially with the main armament, with a similar weapon, pintle mounted on the commanders cupola. The Mark 13 also had a 0.5in machine gun for the ranging system. The tank carried 64 rounds of 105mm, 600 rounds of 0.5in and 4,750 rounds of 0.3in ammunition."
If it gets that gun depression with a weaker gun and more survivability than a US med I'll play it in a heartbeat. I love my american tanks because of their gun depression. If the Brits have that going for their med's too I'll be thoroughly excited. Especially after watching greatest tank battles on youtube about israeli centurion's pwning t54/55's




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