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Guhonter #1 Posted Sep 04 2010 - 02:30

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I prefer the 10cm over the 7.5 as the damage is significantly higher. Even the big guys can take a dent from that gun :)

HLS30 #2 Posted Sep 04 2010 - 07:09

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I prefer the StuH 10.5 as well (and only run straight HE). Reload is longer, but it'll damage almost anything (using the same gun in my StuG right now and it's not uncommon to get ~17k credits for a battle).

Guhonter #3 Posted Sep 04 2010 - 12:50

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Highest Damage you can get. As a Hetzer you dont get to live very long (most times)- so i try to make at least every shot hit as hard as I can. Rammer works for me, too.

HLS30 #4 Posted Sep 04 2010 - 23:33

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View PostIsolTl, on Sep 04 2010 - 07:55, said:

Hmmm sounds good I'll go for the heavier 10.5 then. I assume HE rounds in it because of the low penetration?

Yes, run straight HE. Penetration is slightly higher with AP, but not enought to guarantee penetration of any same or higher tier vehicles. HE though will damage *anything*

Benden #5 Posted Sep 05 2010 - 18:25

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View PostIsolTl, on Sep 05 2010 - 12:14, said:

HE damage seems to be a little hit or miss in this game but the gun is a damn good scout killer. and can hurt tier 5/6 pretty well. Managed to get an IS3 kill but I was really lucky. *Ended up behind him*


I agree with posts above : 105mm + he shells.
But compared to all TD i've played so far, the hetzer should be played just long enough to go for the next td : you'll have much more fun with the stug 3 and above. So imo, hetzer is just a transition td and not worth spending too much ressources/time.

HLS30 #6 Posted Sep 05 2010 - 21:30

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View PostBenden, on Sep 05 2010 - 18:25, said:

I agree with posts above : 105mm + he shells.
But compared to all TD i've played so far, the hetzer should be played just long enough to go for the next td : you'll have much more fun with the stug 3 and above. So imo, hetzer is just a transition td and not worth spending too much ressources/time.


True, but it's good to get used to the 10.5 for use on the Stug, as it's still a viable choice (especially with all the heavies running around right now, the L70 isn't as good...)

Napro #7 Posted Sep 06 2010 - 01:00

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Dont know what game you people are playing.. Ive hit Mediums at near point blank at the rear with a 10.5 and had it bounce off.
The only thing you can do with a hetzer is detrack heavies, for which i Prefer the PaK's refire rate

TexasTC #8 Posted Sep 06 2010 - 18:43

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10.5 with HE. Can't agree more. And as was mentioned, the camo net really really helps. Pick your fights at close range, at long range just let em have it. That said, get the STUGIII soon as you can, and use 10.5 in it too. Big improvement to life expectancy.

HLS30 #9 Posted Sep 06 2010 - 20:21

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Camo net really does help? Guess I'll try it out on my Stug. Is it the same as the rammers that you can't remove it afterwords though?

damoven #10 Posted Sep 06 2010 - 22:15

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I've found the Hetzer to be nothing more than a useless pig of a tank. In the Marder and the other lighter TD I can do well on maps, sometimes getting 5 and 6 kills. In the Hetzer (even with upgraded 10.5cm gun) I just don't seem to do any good at all. I thought the bigger gun would be better but I find that to even have a hope of doing dmg I have to run quite close to enemies, and in that situation the gun is too slow to reload.

Can't wait to get away from the lumbering beast TBH. I've spent more time in the Marder and converted the XP.

Venusius #11 Posted Sep 07 2010 - 10:18

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I miss my Marder II. This tank is poor in terms of spotting the enemy - heavy tanks normally spot me first instead of the other way around (unlike the Marder II). The arc of fire is also very narrow and makes shooting moving targets quite challenging. I can't wait to upgrade to the Stug. The gun is sweet though. 105mm is quite an upgrade but as I've said, the inherent weakness of the tank makes the gun less effective. When I first bought this tank I thought it should do well with its sloped armour and low profile, sadly it wasn't so.

Elysion #12 Posted Sep 08 2010 - 07:25

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I think the fully upgraded Hetzer is more enjoyable to drive than the fully upgraded StuG.

Ghoststalker #13 Posted Sep 10 2010 - 00:06

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View PostElysion, on Sep 08 2010 - 07:25, said:

I think the fully upgraded Hetzer is more enjoyable to drive than the fully upgraded StuG.

Enjoying the scenery much?

Shigure #14 Posted Sep 10 2010 - 05:57

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It really is a shame that the Hetzer, such a good TD in real life, is passed through with as much haste as possible in game. I didn't mind my time in the Hetzer but i'll admit I was glad to pick up the Stug and my L/70(which I love and still use on my JpzIV). The 10.5cm on the Hetzer is probably the best way to get through it but I wouldn't recommend using it after you've gotten ahold of the L/70. You'll pick up bad habits.

PhoLover93 #15 Posted Sep 21 2010 - 20:58

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stick with the 10.5cm, seeing as how most of the time you can't even dent anything with the other guns.

Niloc555 #16 Posted Oct 08 2011 - 12:47

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Just noticed that while both guns are usable on the Stug III and the JagdPzIV, the PaK 39 L/48 is required to get the L/70 and the JagPzIV.  If you're planning on hurrying through the Hetzer, might make sense to save some exp/credits and go with the L/48 which you'll need to buy eventually.

hardPatz #17 Posted Oct 10 2011 - 15:48

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The 10.5 can be fun, but you can be equally if not more effective with the 75mm. It fires much faster (close to 18 rounds a minute) than the 10.5 and is pretty accurate. It will hurt any tank you are matched up against from the sides, and do much more damage on successive penetrating hits. KV's are almost as killable at range as with an L-70.

I used to think the 10.5 was the way to go, but you can dispatch lower tier enemies and your own tier quickly (things like the t-34 or pz III-IV are easy meat with this gun not so much with the 105) with the 75 and do serious damage at range to even t-6 and t-7 (vk series tanks and t-34-85 are easily killed if they are not gunning for you, again the 10.5 isn't as effective). Yeah it's fun to lay waste to tier IV's and below in one shot, but that was never the hetzer's weak point.

Bunpunter #18 Posted Oct 10 2011 - 16:57

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+1 for 105. It is fun to one-shot stuff and helps to slow down some of your faster enemies even if you dont hit them.

AgentOrange #19 Posted Oct 10 2011 - 20:10

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L70

fish96 #20 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 16:18

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only 105