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Supraluminal #21 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 16:05

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View PostGeneralDirection, on Jan 31 2012 - 15:53, said:

If you want to try to win with 9 tier 10s, you're more than welcome to. On the flip side, if you want to try to win with 15 tier 6s, you're also welcome to try!
You should clarify this in the OP and WoT news post.  The 12 player minimum for the team registration section makes it sound like you have to have at least 12 tanks actually playing.  I suggest stating specifically that you can take less than 12 players into the battle.

HighPitch #22 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 16:18

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View PostGeneralDirection, on Jan 31 2012 - 05:58, said:

I will bring this up, but to answer your question it was limited due to Visa concerns. The countries listed do not require a Visa for entry into the United States so long as the person meets the listed requirements.

A UK citizen does not need a visa either.

Thoringer #23 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 16:32

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View PostGeneralDirection, on Jan 31 2012 - 05:58, said:

I will bring this up, but to answer your question it was limited due to Visa concerns. The countries listed do not require a Visa for entry into the United States so long as the person meets the listed requirements.

Wouldn't it be easier if you just state that they would have to be able to enter the US legally either by visa or other means? E.g. I am a Registered Alien. I am German. I am - according to current rules not eligible but I live and work in the United States. I even work for a State Department... But I won't have citizenship until August...http://cdn-frm-us.wa...Smile_smile.gif
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RedWolfz0r #24 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 16:39

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View Posthank2972, on Jan 31 2012 - 08:58, said:

Why  Taiwaness cannot join this event :(

It doesn't say you can't join the event, just that your clan representative should you happen to win and wish to collect the prize, might not be eligible.

Eliminateur #25 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 17:19

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generaldirection, some feedback and questions:

what's "ultimate" about a 90 point limit?, why didn't you made it like the ural steel tournment (no-holds-barred 14v14 ), THAT is "ultimate".
You realize one of the stuff that made the old company battles essentially fail and go unused was the tier limit which made small tanks useless and not enough to put big tanks
and... why steppes(one of the more unappealing maps in the game)?, why not a more balanced CITY map like ruinberg or ENSK, even fishing bay would be better?

i cretainly hope we'll see real ultimate tourneys down the line(i don't find the point limit much appealing) with good city maps

HighPitch #26 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 17:21

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View PostThoringer, on Jan 31 2012 - 16:32, said:

Wouldn't it be easier if you just state that they would have to be able to enter the US legally either by visa or other means? E.g. I am a Registered Alien. I am German. I am - according to current rules not eligible but I live and work in the United States. I even work for a State Department... But I won't have citizenship until August...http://cdn-frm-us.wa...Smile_smile.gif
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I guess the simplest thing to say would be "applicants must be able to get to San Francisco without requiring a visa". That pretty much sums up what they're going for, afaict.

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View PostRedWolfz0r, on Jan 31 2012 - 16:39, said:

It doesn't say you can't join the event, just that your clan representative should you happen to win and wish to collect the prize, might not be eligible.
this. anyone/clan can enter the contest. if you happen to win, your clan rep needs to be able to enter the US, Wargaming is not helping with a visa as they had issues during Ural Steel with visas so they are listing countries who dont need a visa. i dont see why they dont also add an addendum that the clan rep can get a visa on their own and Wargaming will take no responsibility for it.

View PostThoringer, on Jan 31 2012 - 16:32, said:

Wouldn't it be easier if you just state that they would have to be able to enter the US legally either by visa or other means? E.g. I am a Registered Alien. I am German. I am - according to current rules not eligible but I live and work in the United States. I even work for a State Department... But I won't have citizenship until August...
anyone can enter the contest. the clan rep to come to San Fran to collect the first place prize must be a US citizen, resident (which you are) or from one of the countries listed.

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View PostEliminateur, on Jan 31 2012 - 17:19, said:

generaldirection, some feedback and questions:

what's "ultimate" about a 90 point limit?, why didn't you made it like the ural steel tournment (no-holds-barred 14v14 ), THAT is "ultimate".
You realize one of the stuff that made the old company battles essentially fail and go unused was the tier limit which made small tanks useless and not enough to put big tanks
and... why steppes(one of the more unappealing maps in the game)?, why not a more balanced CITY map like ruinberg or ENSK, even fishing bay would be better?

i cretainly hope we'll see real ultimate tourneys down the line(i don't find the point limit much appealing) with good city maps

This is all a matter of personal preference, and I'm sure they'll mix it up in future tournaments.  Personally I think a tier/point limit requires teams to make interesting choices about what to bring, so I'm all for it.  I also think Steppes is a pretty good map!

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View PostHighPitch, on Jan 31 2012 - 17:21, said:

I guess the simplest thing to say would be "applicants must be able to get to San Francisco without requiring a visa". That pretty much sums up what they're going for, afaict.

Not "without a visa" but "legally." e.g all Eurpean Union citizen can travel into the United States with a 24h notice I believe (just by booking your flight, you do that "notice" and the DHS is checking you against a blacklist). If you require a visa, there would be no reason to exclude you as long as you can get it, or am I wrong? About the people form the EU - of course they are excluded because they have their own tournaments and the costs for the flight WG is paying should be reasonable. Just thinking about it, if you play WoT, you probably can afford Internet and don't live in the Buenos Aires slums. Therefore,vthat limitation should be only to cap the costs on the travel because that can get out of budget rather quickly. So, just saying something like a $2000 air fair is max would be easier. Not saying it should be that exact amount, it's just a figure. This way, if you come from somewhere else, it would be up to you to pick up the rest of the tab.

The_Dutch_Oven #30 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 18:32

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This is just what I need. Needing gold, and not in a clan yet.



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BandofBrothers101 #31 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 19:28

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Will there be Fog of War in this tournament? just wondering to plan our clan's strategy out carefully :)

BarrooM #32 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 19:37

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I'm going to say I'm 100% sure FoW will not be in this.

Battleship_Constitution #33 Posted Jan 31 2012 - 23:02

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Fc-SV will also not be taking part in this. Since all of AoD's 9 clans can take part we are withdrawing period. AoD is the example but there are other clans that have more than one clan.

Sorry GD but as stated in the clan forum. No matter the prize Unless something is done to limit clans fling the same tags we will not partake in this thing.

Eliminateur #34 Posted Feb 01 2012 - 00:01

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View PostBandofBrothers101, on Jan 31 2012 - 19:28, said:

Will there be Fog of War in this tournament? just wondering to plan our clan's strategy out carefully :)

ditto on this one

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View Postvampyrehntrd, on Jan 31 2012 - 23:02, said:

Fc-SV will also not be taking part in this. Since all of AoD's 9 clans can take part we are withdrawing period. AoD is the example but there are other clans that have more than one clan.

Sorry GD but as stated in the clan forum. No matter the prize Unless something is done to limit clans fling the same tags we will not partake in this thing.

As I mentioned in the news article, you do realize if a sub-clan's team wins the tournament, a rep from that sub-clan must attend the event, right?

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View PostBandofBrothers101, on Jan 31 2012 - 19:28, said:

Will there be Fog of War in this tournament? just wondering to plan our clan's strategy out carefully :)

No, it's not possible to enable Fog of War for tournament battles at this time. Once it is, I am definitely considering enabling it for certain tournaments.

Battleship_Constitution #37 Posted Feb 01 2012 - 02:13

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View PostGeneralDirection, on Feb 01 2012 - 00:42, said:

As I mentioned in the news article, you do realize if a sub-clan's team wins the tournament, a rep from that sub-clan must attend the event, right?

funny who you can say that but how could you monitor that?

Again not taking part due to the lack or restaints on cland with AoD, 7thAD, Relic, IR or any other clan that owns more than one clan.

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View Postvampyrehntrd, on Feb 01 2012 - 02:13, said:

funny who you can say that but how could you monitor that?

Again not taking part due to the lack or restaints on cland with AoD, 7thAD, Relic, IR or any other clan that owns more than one clan.

Did AoD place in either of thesetournaments? The tournament is not decided by who has the most clans, it is decided by who wins on an even playing field.

Eliminateur #39 Posted Feb 01 2012 - 03:48

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yeah, if your teram is good, you'll advance, no matter if you're against 9 teams of the same macroclan

RedWolfz0r #40 Posted Feb 01 2012 - 04:33

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View Postvampyrehntrd, on Jan 31 2012 - 23:02, said:

Fc-SV will also not be taking part in this. Since all of AoD's 9 clans can take part we are withdrawing period. AoD is the example but there are other clans that have more than one clan.

Sorry GD but as stated in the clan forum. No matter the prize Unless something is done to limit clans fling the same tags we will not partake in this thing.

So hundreds of players should miss out on the opportunity to take part in this tournament (and the potential reward of 1k gold each to clan members) because they are part of a large clan? Doesn't seem reasonable to me.

If you are good enough to win you should be able to beat however many teams they make.

Personally I don't understand why they have the 100 player limit on clans still, when the changed Clan Wars rules benefit having smaller clans.



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