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[garmeth]

So I just got my pershing and at this point I figure I should be able with the tank I'm driving to not get wrecked by type 59s, my problem is when its peak a boo dogfighting vs a type 59 I CAN NEVER PENETRATE from the front. Where are the weakspots for this tank?

When I am in very close proximity I can get reliable penetration through the hatch, but any further I don't know where to aim for. Help please, this tank is harder to kill then the Lowe

[xiantom]

Turret ring, and the hatch. If he didn't angle his armor, you should be able to pen hull without too much trouble.

[ForcestormX]

Shoot the sides, if he angled some will be visible, against a 59 a tracking is still a victory because then the armor is open for a follow-up shot.

[Danneskjold184]

If you're up close, aim for the commander's hatch.  It's easy to penetrate, and your gun is accurate enough to do it.

[9mmCapsule]

I have been practicing M26 and happened to fight a Type 59 today, I did win with some help but there is a important trick you can use when fighting an enemy. Let me show you what I did

Pershing has very nice gun depression, so put a hill between you and your enemy during the fight can give you chance to shoot your enemy more than they can shoot you. If you didn't track him like i did, don't aim Type 59's turret, aim for the cupola as him come up the hill

Also when he is facing you, aim for the light on his front armor, behind it is the engine, hitting it may cause fire.  

If he show you his side, aim the area between track and the turret, you can get his ammo rack easily,

A good Type 59 player would angle this front when engaging enemy. Try to track him first in this situation, then go around for the thin armor/ammo rack/fuel.

Also remember to angle your front too, use that nice fast neutral steering

[crunkindonuts]

the left side upper glacis of the type 59 is a weak spot. I can always pen there with the long 90. there's a hit skin video on youtube that shows the type 59 at 15:06.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=JmKfo3d_gpM

[Caitz]

If you have the long 90mm, at long range, I have found the lower hull can be penetrated, and is not that small target.

I'm disappointed with the performance of my Pershing, against the Type 59. I do well when there is room to maneuver. So many maps limit your combat options, and frontally you are not that great a match. You hit some, and bounce some ... and the '59 rarely bounces on you.

[Scorpier]

Teamwork him. To DEATH.
But! In the event that you find yourself alone (and we all know THAT never happens!) you can try to do this:
The name of the game with fighting the 59s is ammo racks. That's right, racks. There are 3 ways in to the lovely ammo racks of the Type 59. Aim in his sides under his turret, the whole length of the turret is where the ammo racks are on the sides, and if you don't blow it up you WILL at least penetrate and get some damage in. Another good spot is the back of his turret, but getting to that one on one is difficult.
Hitting them in the front is nearly a pointless endeavor. Yes, there ARE places to penetrate, but it's tough. Assume he's facing you. One good spot is on what would be your right side, the driver's hatch. The other is on your lower left, on the bottom of the Type 59. If you're lucky you can light him up.
Another good thing to try to go for is to track him, especially if he's moving fast. Usually he'll do one of them fancy slip n' slides, giving you a clean shot at his vulnerable sides.
Also, remember: You are in an AMERICAN tank. You CAN'T lose to no commies. Ok, not really, but confidence helps.

[TracerM17]

Don't shoot the front unless you are just hoping for a lucky shot. Type 59's are usually aggressive. The Pershing can out manuever it at close range. Get at the sides and rear.

[Uberdude9001]

Shoot them through the right side, or if you're in the back aim towards the right. Their fuel tank, ammo rack, engine, and several of their crew are there.

[ThorLYY]

Type 59 has a considerably large commander's hatch... if a type 59 keep showing his front to you, just ram at it face to face and keep close while shooting its commander's hatch.
Pershing's gun shield is a little bit thicker than other parts of this tank.

[ThorLYY]

...and it should not be recommended for a Pershing to fight a Type 59 at longer range... but if you're forced to do so, find somewhere higher or lower to it so the angle is decreased making it easier to pen. Lower hull is always weaker though. The relatively small area around Type 59's gun seems to have a glitch and have virtually no armor protection. so if you're tracked and the Type 59 keeps aiming at you it's also an option. Tried this with a Chafee.
Just make it close. Pershing has better firepower and more HP.

[LC50]

When I'm head on with a 59 I always aim for the headlight (it's on the right side of the tank (their right) just above the glacis).  If you penetrate, you have a good chance of a devastating secondary ammo rack explosion or at least knocking their ammo rack out.  I haven't been successful with the lower glacis, perhaps due to the slope when facing them head-on on level ground.  I caveat this by saying I don't have a Pershing; this experience is mostly from my T29, T32, and T34.

[Gary007]

Type-59 is a crap tank you shouldn't have to much problems with a Pershing, the Pershing is the best T8 med in the game from what I could remeber

[Armor008]

 ThorLYY, on Feb 16 2012 - 08:32, said:

...and it should not be recommended for a Pershing to fight a Type 59 at longer range... but if you're forced to do so, find somewhere higher or lower to it so the angle is decreased making it easier to pen. Lower hull is always weaker though. The relatively small area around Type 59's gun seems to have a glitch and have virtually no armor protection. so if you're tracked and the Type 59 keeps aiming at you it's also an option. Tried this with a Chafee.
Just make it close. Pershing has better firepower and more HP.

There is no glitch.  On a real Type 59, the area surrounding the gun is just a canvas cover, with no steel behind it at all.

[Zodd3]

I have one-shot Type 59s several times in my Pershing by hitting his side ammo rack, I laugh like a maniac every time. Other than shooting him in the side, I just face hug him and turn his commander's hatch into swiss cheese. They really aren't that tough, although I wouldn't recommend a long distance 1 on 1 as his armor will bounce more than yours.

[Jason1138]

ammo racks if you can, tracks if not. once they're tracked drive to the side and pen them easy

[Scorpier]

OP, any luck?

[Zepheris]

close/mid range if he is facing dead on towards you you can penetrate the lower glacis with decent reliability, generally speaking though fighting the tank one on one against a decent driver means you have no choice but to flank him to stand a chance of winning unless you have a good cover and he does not, otherwise it's a losing proposition.

 Scorpier17, on Feb 08 2012 - 01:09, said:

Teamwork him. To DEATH.

And then you meet with a platoon of 3 Type59...

well to be fair, a full platoon of Type59 with decent drivers in them will most likely steam roll the flank they decide to assault unless there's multiple tank there with high penetration gun to blunt them before they enter effective range, there's not much to be done there except have your own platoon of tanks (something with 200+ pen gun preferably) or pray your team have enough assets within the vicinity to slow them down.

[DrDeus]

The lower glacis is a lie. There is no weakspot on the front hull, you pen about 30-40% of the time at range, and typically 80% of the time up close. A good type 59 will completely destroy you, so find friends or hide. If he's stupid enough to have a shootout with you while you're hull down, he probably wont pen you, but you likely won't pen him much either.