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Hindric #1 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:05

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Hey everyone, found some info on the Russian websites concerning the module swaps. Special thanks to Rypper and Aesir for their efforts in translating broken English to readable English.

Source: http://forum.worldof...замена-т34-т30/

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I. Replacement plan for the T30 to T110 switch.

Case 1: The T30 is researched, but not present in the garage.

- The T30 is replaced by the T110 as the American tier 10 heavy.
- All modules for the T30 are replaced by the corresponding modules in the T110.
- The accumulated experience on the T30 is transferred to the T110.
- Commander, Gunner, Driver: Any of these crew members, either in the barracks or in the tank, who have been trained for the T30 are retrained to the T110 without any other changes or penalties.
- Radio Operator: If this crew member, either in the barracks or in the tank, has training in the T30 as a heavy tank, he is re-trained in the T30 as the tier 9 TD without any other changes or penalties.
- Loader: The crew member, either in the barracks or in the tank, who has the greatest skill level of the pair is retrained to the T110 without any other changes or penalties. The other loader is retrained to the tier 9 T30 TD without any other changes or penalties.
- Player statistics and achievements on the T30 are moved to the T110 without any losses or penalties.
- The player gets an open transition from the T28 prototype to T30 TD on the new American Tank Destroyer branch. This means the T30 as a TD will be researched for the player. (Note: I assume this means that the T30 will be researched in the T28p.)

Case 2: The T30 is researched and present in the garage at the time of replacement. All of the criteria for Case 1 applies, in addition to the following.

- The T30 is replaced in the garage by the T110.
- Ammunition loaded inside the T30 is transferred to the player's depot.
- Consumables stored in the T30 are moved into the T110.
- Equipment installed on the T30 is removed and transferred to the player's depot at no personal cost.
- The player receives the T30 as a tier 9 TD in their garage with no additional modules or consumables, as well as a free slot. (Note: I am not sure if "additional modules" refers to the equipment, such as vents & coated optics, or if they mean actual tank modules. If the latter, there should be no worries as the T30 will be moved in elite form.)
- The crew placed on the T30 at the time of the switch receives re-training in accordance with Case 1.
- The player receives a new, incomplete crew (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver) for the tier 9 T30 TD with 100% skill.
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II. Replacement plan for the T34 to M103 switch.

Case 1: The T34 is researched, but not present in the garage.

- The T34 is replaced by the M103 as the American tier 9 heavy.
- All stock modules for the T34 are replaced by the corresponding modules for the M103 in the research tree, as outlined here.
- If the engine "Continental_AV-1790-5" has been researched in the T34, then M103 will have the engine "Continental_AV-1790-7C" researched.
- If the turret "T34T7" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the turret "Turret_2_M103" researched.
- If the suspension "T80E3" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the suspension "Chassis_M103_" researched.
- If the gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the gun "120mm_Gun_T122" researched.
- If the gun "120mm_Gun_T53" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the gun "120mm_Gun_M58" researched.
- If the radio module "SCR_528" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the radio module "AN-ARC-27 researched.
- The M103's credit and research costs will be the same as the T34, except for the guns. For example, it will be possible to research the turret "Turret_2_M103" on the M103 at the same experience and credit cost as the turret "T34T7" on the T34 had been. The experience and credit costs of the guns will be recalculated "on the basis of common sense" (Note: likely during Public Test). The gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1", becoming a stock module on the M103, will likely not change in credit cost due to being a module in other tanks. The 120 mm guns will have to have their credit and experience cost recalculated.
- The accumulated experience in the T34 is transferred to the M103.
- All modules from the T34 that are incompatible with the M103 (turret, tracks, gun "120mm_Gun_T53", engine "Continental_AV-1790-5") and those T34 modules in the depot are sold at nominal purchase price, and the credits received in the sale are transferred to the player's account.
- These T34 modules (radio, engine Continental_AV-1790-3, 90mm and 105mm guns) are stored in the player's depot. This applies to all existing rounds in these guns. (Note: This one was confusing.)
- All T34 crewman, either in the barracks or in the tank, are re-trained in the premium T34 without any other changes or penalties;
- Player statistics and achievements on the T34 are moved to the M103 without any losses or penalties.

Case 2: The T34 is researched and present in the garage at the time of replacement. All of the criteria for Case 1 applies, in addition to the following.

- The T34 is replaced in the garage by the M103.
- T34 modules incompatible with the M103 are replaced by modules of equivalent status. For example, if the T34 has the gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1" installed, it will be replaced with the M103 gun "120mm_Gun_T122".
- Ammunition loaded inside the T34 is transferred to the player's depot.
- Consumables stored in the T34 are moved into the M103.
- Equipment installed on the T34 is removed and transferred to the player's depot at no personal cost.
- The player receives the premium tier 8 T34 heavy tank in their garage with no additional equipment or consumables, and a free slot for it.
- The player receives a new crew for the M103 with 100% primary skill.


XyA_DeathKnight #2 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:09

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Safe to say "Pumped" = Researched?

JohnMikey #3 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:12

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According to this, even with T5E1 we still have a 120mm LOL :)

CryoVolt #4 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:22

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Yeah we will get the 120mm, just need the turret to mount it (probably). ... and tracks I guess.

Seems like our T34 stats will go to M103?

build_more_tanks #5 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:23

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View PostXyA_DeathKnight, on Feb 08 2012 - 22:09, said:

Safe to say "Pumped" = Researched?
Yeah, and "sink" = stock.

paradat #6 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:31

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Sweet! when? when? when?.... now?..............how about now?....

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B_Wilco #7 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:42

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actually that was very useful. its nice to know the M103 will come stock with the 105mm and come with 2 different 120mm. No more useless 90mm :Smile_great:

Rypper #8 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:44

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Hopefully, a slightly better translation (sorry for the quality - I didn't have much time):

The schema of replacement of "heavy tank T30" with "heavy tank T110":

Case 1: T30 was researched but was not present in the hangar

- Tank T30 is replaced in the US Heavy Tank tree with T110 heavy tank.
- All stock modules of T30 tank in the research tree are replaced with the corresponding stock T110 tank modules in the research tree, if necessary;
- The accumulated experience of tank T30 is transferred to the tank T110
- The commander, gunner, a driver: any of these crew members in the barracks or in the tank which has specialized in the tank T30, receives a specialization in the tank T110 as a heavy tank at level 10 without any other changes or penalties;
- Radio Operator: This crew member in the barracks or in the tank, which has specialized in the tank T30, receives a specialization in T30 TD as the Tier 9 TD without any other changes or penalties;
- Loader: The crew member in the barracks who has the greatest skill level, receives the tank T110 specialization as a heavy tank at level 10 without any other changes or penalties. Other loaders with a focus on heavy tank T30 level 10, found in the barracks or on the tank receive specialization in TD-T30 without any other changes or penalties;
- Player stats and achievements on the tank T30 goes to the tank T110 without any losses or penalties;
- The player gets an open transition from T28 prototype to T30 as a TD, the American branch of the Tank Destroyers. This means the T30 as TD for this player will be researched.

Case 2. Tank T30 was present in a hangar at the time of replacement and was researched, then there is the same as provided in case 1, as well as the following:

- Tank T30 as a heavy tank at level 10 is replaced by the T110 tank as a heavy tank at level 10;
- Ammunition loaded onto the tank T30 is transferred to the depot;
- Consumables that are installed on the tank of the T30 player, stored in a tank T110;
- Equipment installed on the tank of the T30 player is removed from it and transferred to the warehouse at no cost by the player;
- The player receives the Tier 9 U.S. TD T30 in its hangar with no additional modules or consumables, as well as a free slot for it.
- The crew located on the tank T30 receives a new specialization in accordance with Case 1 and is transferred to the respective machines, according to their new specialization;
- The player gets a new incomplete crew (commander, gunner, loader, driver-mechanic) for T30 Tier 9 TD with 100% skill.

II. Schema of replacement of the tank T34 with the M103.

Case 1. If tank T34 was absent in the hangar at the time of replacement, but was researched, the following takes place:

- The Tier 9 heavy tank in the tree of U.S. tanks "heavy tank T34 is replaced  with "M103 heavy tank";
- All stock modules of the T34 tank in tree research tanks are replaced with the corresponding stock modules M103 tank in the research tree, if necessary;
- If the engine Continental_AV-1790-5 has been researched in the research tree on T34 tank, then the tank will have the M103 engine Continental_AV-1790-7C researched;
- If the T34T7 turret has been researched in the research tree tank T34, the turret Turret_2_M103 will be opened in the M103 research tree;
- If the T80E3 suspension has been researched in the tank T34 research tree, Chassis_M103_2 suspension will be researched in the M103 research tree;
- If the 105mm_Gun_T5E1 gun has been researched in the tank T34 tree, 120mm_Gun_T122 will be researched in the M103 tree (!!!)
- If the 120mm_Gun_T53 tank gun has been researched in the T34 tree, 120mm_Gun_M58 will be researched in the M103 tree;
- If the radio station SCR_528 has been researched in the tree for tank T34, the AN-ARC-27 radio station will be open in the study tree M103;
- The cost of research in xp and their price in credits for the M103 tank will be the same as for the tank T34, except for the guns. For example, will be possible to research the Turret_2_M103 turret, which replaces the turret T34T7, for the same amount of experience that was required to research T34T7. And the purchase, for example, the tower Turret_2_M103 in the store will be for the same number of credits that would be required to purchase the tower T34T7. Guns should be recalculated on the experience and the value of the credits on the basis of common sense, it is an instrument 105mm_Gun_T5E1, becoming a stock on the tank M103, probably should not change the cost of credit, and is likely to switch from tank to tank T32 M103 must pass through the gun. For the 120 mm guns in the cost of credit and the experience has to be recalculated again;
- The accumulated experience in the tank T34 is transferred to the tank M103;
- All modules from the tank T34, did not fit in the tanks (the turret, tracks, gun 120mm_Gun_T53, engine Continental_AV-1790-5) and the existing players in stock, sold at a nominal purchase price, the sale of the loans received in the account of the player;
- All that apply to other modules from the tanks of the tank T34 (radio, engine Continental_AV-1790-3, 90mm and 105mm guns) are stored in the stock player, the same applies to all existing players in these guns, shells (as well as the 120 mm shells);
Any member of the crew in the barracks or on the player's technique, which has specialized in the tank T34, receives a specialization in the tank T34 as a premium-tank level 8 with no other changes or penalties;
Player stats on the tank goes to the T34 M103 tank, without any losses or penalties, and the conservation achievements.

Case 2. Tank T34 was present in a hangar at the time of replacement and was researched, then there is the same as provided in Case 1, as well as the following:

- Tank T34 Tank M103 replaced with the replacement of the incompatible researched modules, for example, if the tank has T34 gun 105mm_Gun_T5E1 installed, it will be replaced with a tank gun 120mm_Gun_T122 M103;
- Ammunition loaded onto the tank T34, the player is transferred to the depot;
- Consumables that are installed on the tank of the T34 player, stored in a tank M103;
- Additional equipment installed on the tank of the T34 player is removed from it and transferred to the warehouse at no cost by the player;
- The player gets a heavy premium Tank Level 8 U.S. T34 in its hangar at no additional modules or supplies, and a free slot for it.
- The crew received a new specialty in accordance with paragraph 13 of Case 1, located on the tank T34, T34 tank goes to a premium level 8 of the player;
- The player gets a new crew for the M103 tank with a 100% main skill.

Erwin_Fox #9 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:46

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Does anyone if this same info is for the KV turning inot KV-1 and KV-2?

TELEFORCE #10 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 22:50

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Well that's good!  That puts to rest my questions regarding whether or not we'd get a 120mm gun for the 105.  Cool!  Now what do we know about the T122?

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Good. Seems that Gun_T53 will be for T34 only

Azerious #12 Posted Feb 08 2012 - 23:36

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DO IT ALREADY!!!! :Smile-izmena:

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What's that? The stats from the T30 and T34 won't be stuck on our shiny new tanks? Excellent!

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Anyone knows something about gun T122?

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View PostPHOENIX_ONE, on Feb 09 2012 - 02:19, said:

Anyone knows something about gun T122?

It's the same as the 120mm T53, it was just re-designated for the T43, the early test version of the M103.

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From what I understand, it's based off the T53.  However it has less penetration than the M58 (aka T123).  The M103 prototypes mounted the T122 gun, but the T123/M58 was found to be better.

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View PostTELEFORCE, on Feb 09 2012 - 02:35, said:

From what I understand, it's based off the T53.

Nope, the T122 is exactly the same as the T53. Weight, length, rifling, muzzle velocity, everything.

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 02:38, said:

Nope, the T122 is exactly the same as the T53. Weight, length, rifling, muzzle velocity, everything.

I was close :P  But there was something different about it compared to the T53, IIRC.

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Well, I was wrong about the weight, the T122 was slightly lighter compared to the T53.

I believe the T122 was supposed to receive a different type of ammunition. I am not sure, though.

EDIT: Anyways, it's nice knowing that my grind will be made a bit easier with a 120mm rather than having to soldier it all out with the 105mm T5E1. That was a scary thought there, for a while.

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...T30 in its hangar with no additional modules

Does that mean we will get a stock T30 TD in the hangar? Grrrrreat...




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