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PHOENIX_ONE #21 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 03:26

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 02:34, said:

It's the same as the 120mm T53, it was just re-designated for the T43, the early test version of the M103.

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View Postaquabat, on Feb 09 2012 - 03:03, said:

Does that mean we will get a stock T30 TD in the hangar? Grrrrreat...

Maybe the T30 will be elited stock.  Perhaps the T28 prototype will get access to the 155mm gun.

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View Postaquabat, on Feb 09 2012 - 03:03, said:

Does that mean we will get a stock T30 TD in the hangar? Grrrrreat...

I believe that it means that no modules like a vertical stabilizer, or a rammer.

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 03:30, said:

I believe that it means that no modules like a vertical stabilizer, or a rammer.

That's equipment, not modules. I'll hope that something got lost in translation and you are actually right, tho.

BeingBadNotBeingGood #25 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 03:41

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Well, I grinded out the T53 with the 105 was a lot harder than necessary :mellow:

_Jayzilla #26 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 04:03

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Dammit! I had a great record on my T30 and T34. Oh well, I do not mind getting the T110 to my most played tank.

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View Postaquabat, on Feb 09 2012 - 03:03, said:

Does that mean we will get a stock T30 TD in the hangar? Grrrrreat...

Since the T30 is already elited, I'm assuming that it'll be fully researched when it gets switched over. What the first couple of lines means is that the equipment and consumables will not be transferred over but be demounted at no cost and the consumables will be found on the new respective heavy tank.

Aesir #28 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 05:02

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I've rewritten the info, it was a bit confusing as is.

Thanks to Rypper for the translation.

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I. Replacement plan for the T30 to T110 switch.

Case 1: The T30 is researched, but not present in the garage.

- The T30 is replaced by the T110 as the American tier 10 heavy.
- All modules for the T30 are replaced by the corresponding modules in the T110.
- The accumulated experience on the T30 is transferred to the T110.
- Commander, Gunner, Driver: Any of these crew members, either in the barracks or in the tank, who have been trained for the T30 are retrained to the T110 without any other changes or penalties.
- Radio Operator: If this crew member, either in the barracks or in the tank, has training in the T30 as a heavy tank, he is re-trained in the T30 as the tier 9 TD without any other changes or penalties.
- Loader: The crew member, either in the barracks or in the tank, who has the greatest skill level of the pair is retrained to the T110 without any other changes or penalties. The other loader is retrained to the tier 9 T30 TD without any other changes or penalties.
- Player statistics and achievements on the T30 are moved to the T110 without any losses or penalties.
- The player gets an open transition from the T28 prototype to T30 TD on the new American Tank Destroyer branch. This means the T30 as a TD will be researched for the player. (Note: I assume this means that the T30 will be researched in the T28p.)

Case 2: The T30 is researched and present in the garage at the time of replacement. All of the criteria for Case 1 applies, in addition to the following.

- The T30 is replaced in the garage by the T110.
- Ammunition loaded inside the T30 is transferred to the player's depot.
- Consumables stored in the T30 are moved into the T110.
- Equipment installed on the T30 is removed and transferred to the player's depot at no personal cost.
- The player receives the T30 as a tier 9 TD in their garage with no additional modules or consumables, as well as a free slot. (Note: I am not sure if "additional modules" refers to the equipment, such as vents & coated optics, or if they mean actual tank modules. If the latter, there should be no worries as the T30 will be moved in elite form.)
- The crew placed on the T30 at the time of the switch receives re-training in accordance with Case 1.
- The player receives a new, incomplete crew (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver) for the tier 9 T30 TD with 100% skill.
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II. Replacement plan for the T34 to M103 switch.

Case 1: The T34 is researched, but not present in the garage.

- The T34 is replaced by the M103 as the American tier 9 heavy.
- All stock modules for the T34 are replaced by the corresponding modules for the M103 in the research tree, as outlined here.
- If the engine "Continental_AV-1790-5" has been researched in the T34, then M103 will have the engine "Continental_AV-1790-7C" researched.
- If the turret "T34T7" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the turret "Turret_2_M103" researched.
- If the suspension "T80E3" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the suspension "Chassis_M103_" researched.
- If the gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the gun "120mm_Gun_T122" researched.
- If the gun "120mm_Gun_T53" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the gun "120mm_Gun_M58" researched.
- If the radio module "SCR_528" has been researched in the T34, then the M103 will have the radio module "AN-ARC-27 researched.
- The M103's credit and research costs will be the same as the T34, except for the guns. For example, it will be possible to research the turret "Turret_2_M103" on the M103 at the same experience and credit cost as the turret "T34T7" on the T34 had been. The experience and credit costs of the guns will be recalculated "on the basis of common sense" (Note: likely during Public Test). The gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1", becoming a stock module on the M103, will likely not change in credit cost due to being a module in other tanks. The 120 mm guns will have to have their credit and experience cost recalculated.
- The accumulated experience in the T34 is transferred to the M103.
- All modules from the T34 that are incompatible with the M103 (turret, tracks, gun "120mm_Gun_T53", engine "Continental_AV-1790-5") and those T34 modules in the depot are sold at nominal purchase price, and the credits received in the sale are transferred to the player's account.
- These T34 modules (radio, engine Continental_AV-1790-3, 90mm and 105mm guns) are stored in the player's depot. This applies to all existing rounds in these guns. (Note: This one was confusing.)
- All T34 crewman, either in the barracks or in the tank, are re-trained in the premium T34 without any other changes or penalties;
- Player statistics and achievements on the T34 are moved to the M103 without any losses or penalties.

Case 2: The T34 is researched and present in the garage at the time of replacement. All of the criteria for Case 1 applies, in addition to the following.

- The T34 is replaced in the garage by the M103.
- T34 modules incompatible with the M103 are replaced by modules of equivalent status. For example, if the T34 has the gun "105mm_Gun_T5E1" installed, it will be replaced with the M103 gun "120mm_Gun_T122".
- Ammunition loaded inside the T34 is transferred to the player's depot.
- Consumables stored in the T34 are moved into the M103.
- Equipment installed on the T34 is removed and transferred to the player's depot at no personal cost.
- The player receives the premium tier 8 T34 heavy tank in their garage with no additional equipment or consumables, and a free slot for it.
- The player receives a new crew for the M103 with 100% primary skill.


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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 02:47, said:

Well, I was wrong about the weight, the T122 was slightly lighter compared to the T53.

I believe the T122 was supposed to receive a different type of ammunition. I am not sure, though.

EDIT: Anyways, it's nice knowing that my grind will be made a bit easier with a 120mm rather than having to soldier it all out with the 105mm T5E1. That was a scary thought there, for a while.

Ah these kids after 7.2.(leans back in rocking chair) I remember those dark days, before the great change…

Mow_Mow #30 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 05:24

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 03:30, said:

I believe that it means that no modules like a vertical stabilizer, or a rammer.

Or it could mean that it has its current modules (155mm) but no other researched modules. Or it could also mean a completely stock T30. Or your suggestion, its not specific enough.

Aesir #31 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 05:25

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View PostPolitical_Malcontent, on Feb 09 2012 - 05:22, said:

Ah these kids after 7.2.(leans back in rocking chair) I remember those dark days, before the great change…

I am not willing to go through the horribly masochistic grind to the 120mm T53 this close to patch.

Aesir #32 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 05:32

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View PostMow_Mow, on Feb 09 2012 - 05:24, said:

Or it could mean that it has its current modules (155mm) but no other researched modules.

After I posted that, I thought it out a bit, and that is kind of what I came to conclude. It makes sense to give the transferred T30 all of it's top parts, but not the likely un-researched modules, such as the 120mm T53 AT.

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 05:25, said:

I am not willing to go through the horribly masochistic grind to the 120mm T53 this close to patch.

I got the 120mm when it was on the real masochist men's tank, the T34.

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I think I'll grind for the track, turret and engine  on the T34 so it'll make the M103's grind easier.

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View PostAesir, on Feb 09 2012 - 05:02, said:

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Thanks for the overall better translation Aesir, I've replaced the two quotes with yours since it was more simple and easier to read.

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View PostArzoo, on Feb 09 2012 - 00:55, said:

What's that? The stats from the T30 and T34 won't be stuck on our shiny new tanks? Excellent!
No... the T30 and T34 will have clean slates. The T110 and M103 are getting the stats.

Final_Spark #37 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 18:14

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I've got my crew in the T34 still trained for the T32, but still sitting in the tank. Would they be retrained, or would I have to get them T34 trained?

I also guess that just having the T34 is fine and one wouldn't have to have played in it. I want to grind in the 103, not the 34.

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Thank you for the info and translation, gentlemen. Most helpful.

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View PostCadyshack, on Feb 09 2012 - 18:14, said:

I've got my crew in the T34 still trained for the T32, but still sitting in the tank. Would they be retrained, or would I have to get them T34 trained?

I also guess that just having the T34 is fine and one wouldn't have to have played in it. I want to grind in the 103, not the 34.

I could be wrong, but it'll most like be T34 trained. The code that will make the switch will probably look for the type of training, and change out T34 crews, as opposed to what's in the tank itself.

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If we have to grind for the 155mm, I sure hope it has better dispersion that it has now and 1900HP, the same as a Tier 9 T34.




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