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US Guns, German Armor, Pt 2


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The_Chieftain #1 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 01:26

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LEARNING THE LESSON A SECOND TIME, FALL AND WINTER, 1944/45

After the “Panther Crisis” of July, 1944, and the set of tests conducted by First Army and 12th Army Group at Isigny in France, US Army Ordnance upgraded its testing and evaluation methodologies to ensure it would not be surprised again.  New production techniques were used to improve the performance of existing AP projectiles.  The new HVAP projectiles were put into production, although throughout the Autumn the production ramp was slow, and they were never available in the intended quantities.

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WhiteSavage #2 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 22:35

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Thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting read. Well thought out, and a solid summarized conclusion. Appreciated!

Kalinin #3 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 22:48

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If there's one thing about WG I like, it's Chieftain's articles.

Vikarion #4 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 22:52

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Very interesting. More articles on American tank doctrine, maybe?

the_moidart #5 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 22:56

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Great article. A nice and nuanced view of American tanks vs German tanks.

karolx #6 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 22:59

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It's very good artical.

Chiyeko #7 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 23:12

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Great and very interesting read, perhaps shows why today information warfare is so important and such a key point in military operations.

Having good intel makes all the difference sometimes, but in the end this war would have been won one way or the other.

thetap #8 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 23:40

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Good read!

WarMachine13 #9 Posted Feb 09 2012 - 23:59

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Nice read.  Good job.

Thanx.

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Killertomato #10 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:05

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Write a book, please.

StumpBeefbroth #11 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:15

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Man, very good.  I'll have to start paying more attention to these Chieftains articles.  Anyone that likes this article should track down some Steven Zaloga books.

The_Chieftain #12 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:34

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MorningWood, on Feb 10 2012 - 00:15, said:

I'll have to start paying more attention to these Chieftains articles.

What!? Why weren't you paying attention to them earlier?!  <Grumble...>

ForcestormX #13 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:38

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Great read!
I've been waiting for ages for part II, didn't disappoint! Fascinating stuff.

SuperPanzerMk4 #14 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:46

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wat about the one and only super pershing it knocked out a pather and tiger 1 with no problems

Argent108 #15 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 00:56

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Good article.  Enjoyed the reading very much.

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SuperPanzerMk4, on Feb 10 2012 - 00:46, said:

wat about the one and only super pershing it knocked out a pather and tiger 1 with no problems

Well, there was only one, and this is World of Tanks, where one-offs and prototypes have no bearing in this ga...

oh wait.

Edbert #17 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 01:27

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I just wanted to chime in here and say BRAVO!

Speaking only for myself, as always, I love reading this stuff, keep 'em coming.

whitedragonking #18 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 02:21

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so the lessen is. Poor equipment for the US but DIE HARD tank crew to do the job right. Its clear that WW2 was a lesson for further tank wars to come

noturmom #19 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 02:31

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& yet another great read,, thanks again chief  :Smile_honoring:
cheers N beers

supertsar #20 Posted Feb 10 2012 - 03:03

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Superbly written - you covered all the bases and synthesized it beautifully.
And thanks for the 76mm HVAP delivery numbers - I hadn't seen that before.
Now if you can dig that up for the 90 HVAP....




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