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Oh no, VK4502B!! Whats a poor Russian IS to do?


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ARGO #1 Posted Sep 09 2010 - 16:57

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The VK4502B is a nasty, nasty tank.  It can kill at distance and it can take a whole lot of punishment.  Some call it a mini Maus. Others call it a royal pain in the.....well you know.  So how do we rid ourselves of this bad actor when out cruising in your IS 1,3,4, or7?  I am sure theres a few of you with some good tips and or stories about a successful run in with this monster so share the wealth and give us all some pointers and or weak points.

PzGrenKdr #2 Posted Sep 09 2010 - 17:15

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a VK45 is no prob for a IS-3/4/7 aim the turret front, never the hullfront or the sides/rear, use 122er BL-9 or 130er S-70.

The Vk45 is much worser than the IS-4.

As IS-1/2(i used the 100er D10T) never attacks frontal, ever fron side rear(use only HE against front)

Syllas #3 Posted Sep 09 2010 - 17:17

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i figured that VK4502Bs one weakness is its turret. from what i've seen its not so fast and not that well armored. also its ammo and engine can get hit easy. but its main weakness its that its slow as a tank generaly. the IS outruns it and outturns it easy and it has faster turret.
but that's only coming from my experience busting or trying to bust some. but since we're talking about it why did you post this in the Soviet tanks?

ARGO #4 Posted Sep 09 2010 - 18:00

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View PostSyllas, on Sep 09 2010 - 17:17, said:

why did you post this in the Soviet tanks?

I was wondering how to beat one with a Russian IS heavy so where better to post than Russian heavy tank discussion.

Soraph #5 Posted Sep 09 2010 - 18:02

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I agree with PzGrenKdr, go for the turret and you will deal some nice pain to it, also just above the tracks is a pretty soft spot with HE, or if you are really hardcore AP shells at the base of the turret, you can stuck his turret, but as I said is kinda hardcore, you have to find it standing still, you have to be standing still with a clear path, and you have to be lucky as the shoot can hit within the aim circle anyway.

bubbs #6 Posted Sep 10 2010 - 09:14

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The key is angles. Take a look at the VK45 design and you'll notice it has some pretty inviting surfaces to fire upon. In contrast, the russian tanks always have a low, sloped profile. Use this to your advantage. As you approach your enemy, aim for his tracks first all the while only presenting yourself to him with an angle that minimizes penetration i.e. turn your sloped front to him or only give him your side in a wide angle.

The sweet spot you're going for is his backside, it's big, flat and not very sloped at all. Keep circling him and shoot his ass. While you're driving around his front keep hitting his tracks and turret for extra damage.

This tactic works generally whenever your target is a bigger tank.

Xlore #7 Posted Sep 10 2010 - 15:36

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I find it very easy to kill Vk45s with IS-4 and the 130mm gun.
Shoot it once in turret and then just circel it

SgtNuker #8 Posted Sep 11 2010 - 16:31

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Hitting the sides of the VK45 with the D-25T's AP shells does a worrying amount of damage (well, at least for the VK45 user). However, it's getting to the sides that's the hard(er) part. Fortunately the VK45 is of poor design and rather sluggish, so the nimbler IS can outrun and circle it. HE is the best to use if the VK45 only presents its front and traveling around to the sides and rear are not an option.

ARGO #9 Posted Sep 15 2010 - 15:28

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View Postgabriel, on Sep 14 2010 - 02:37, said:

Is this thread a joke.

No, I am curious how the IS series deals with them because they can take a massive pounding.  I have yet to see a dukefest between an IS3,4,7, and one of these.

EndlessWaves #10 Posted Sep 15 2010 - 18:24

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IS-4s and IS-7s don't have too much trouble getting through the front armour, an IS-2 and IS-3 will but the side hull armour is only 100mm so you don't even have to get that far round.

__SNIPER__74 #11 Posted Sep 15 2010 - 20:38

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View PostArgo66, on Sep 15 2010 - 15:28, said:

No, I am curious how the IS series deals with them because they can take a massive pounding.  I have yet to see a dukefest between an IS3,4,7, and one of these.

The 45 has vertical 100mm armor on the vast majority of it's hull except a small slope in the front, and it's painfully easy to maneuver for a side shot.

It's such a crap vehicle, I sold my 45.

Jeeps_Guns_Tanks #12 Posted Sep 16 2010 - 22:31

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View Postgabriel, on Sep 15 2010 - 20:38, said:

The 45 has vertical 100mm armor on the vast majority of it's hull except a small slope in the front, and it's painfully easy to maneuver for a side shot.

It's such a crap vehicle, I sold my 45.


yep plus it has to put its WHOLE hull out in the open to shoot around a corner... Stupid Stupid design.

Midnitewolf #13 Posted Sep 17 2010 - 03:44

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You shoot them with your big gun :)

seriously side and rear shots work just fine against this tank and I have gotten good penetrating shots against these tanks with both a KV-3 and a KV using only the 100mm or 107mm guns.

ARGO #14 Posted Sep 20 2010 - 16:46

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View Postgabriel, on Sep 15 2010 - 20:38, said:

The 45 has vertical 100mm armor on the vast majority of it's hull except a small slope in the front, and it's painfully easy to maneuver for a side shot.

It's such a crap vehicle, I sold my 45.

Really? was it really that bad?  A buddy of mine was saving for one, any good advice?

bovcan #15 Posted Sep 25 2010 - 18:24

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IS-4 130mm you can do dmg, if you hit gim in the hull on the side, in the front are bouncing, or turret work too.

Belrick #16 Posted Sep 28 2010 - 07:41

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Purely speculative but I found with IS-4 vs VK4502 one on one that the IS-4 will lose 30-40% HP in order to 100% kill the VK.

There was such a glaring gap in capability that i ended up hunting them for credits.

I couldnt day that about Jagdtigers or maus or IS-7 but VK just wasnt a real threat.




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