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wait, i remember it uses same front armor as tiger2? maybe i was wrong

and the shell just raped my radio man off directly >.<

It also has the same MG mount weakspot, which that E8 was spamming. Anywhere else on that plate is strong enough.

 ForcestormX, on Feb 13 2012 - 01:26, said:

yup i know that but i don't think M1A2 can penetrate through TIGERII's MG, and after all do you think JT really has tigerII's front hull?

i think due to his height he may have shot down into your radio mans hatch from above, not sure though

 6011304, on Feb 13 2012 - 01:27, said:

Actually the JT DOES have the Tiger II's hull. It is identical except for the JT they lengthened it by 1 road wheel.

 znrm4268, on Feb 13 2012 - 01:29, said:

The radio man is also the hull machine gunner in some tanks, such as the JT

 F34rmen00bz, on Feb 13 2012 - 01:33, said:

later i gonna test would M1A2 penetrate TIGERII or not, if it doesn't, which certainly means the tiger2 and JT's front hull look the same but they are not the same thickness

Could be gold shells of course (whistles)

Remember gold ammo is 1/2 off so some people may be tempted to run quite a bit.

 Mow_Mow, on Feb 13 2012 - 03:26, said:

well that will be a case but in the test my friend is just using M1A2 AP, but still gives more than half penetrate rate

Well it is point blank, the easy 8 is shooting down (takes away a little bit of effective sloping), and it looks like he's shooting the mg port. So that all combines towards the easy 8's favor, plus it's gun does have 128 average pen (so 50/50 chance of it being higher than 128). So combine that with a 150mm plate? Well since he's shooting the mg port I'd say, yeah it looks like a 50/50 chance to pen is pretty accurate in that scenario.

He's using gold. 177 pen on a 150mm surface.

 cv5yorktown, on Feb 13 2012 - 06:12, said:

Remember its at 128 at 100 meters, so at point blank it'll have higher than that. Probably 135 or so, and if you're looking down on the JT plage, its close to ~160mm effective protection because of the E8 gun looking down, negating slope as well as shell normalization.

This is assuming that the MG port is as strong as the rest of the front plate, which I don't think it is.

Penetration is not boosted for point blank range. This has been checked before.

For the OP, the Sherman appears to be shooting down onto the MG port. This results in your armour sloping being reduced by about 20 degrees shooting into a spot that has a lot less armour (can't remember exactly, but would expect less than 100mm). If he shot just about anywhere else he would bounce.

Of course you can nearly one shot the sherman if it took your fancy. At that range I would be worried about it flanking me, not stopping to take the time to aim at a pretty small weakpoint.

I beg to differ but penetration is boosted by proximity.  The closer you are to the target, the faster the shell is moving and that means it has more energy to
transfer to the target.  Science teaches you that a moving object, like a shell, begins to slow down as soon as it leaves the barrell.  It is true that ther is
some deflection of angle to the target, in this scenario but, yest he is more likely to penetrate that spot that close rather than farther away.  Having said
that, I am a firm believer that is the only reason it was penetrated, no other viable explanation of than a fluke in WOTs grand scheme of things.

 HOTA_CHATON, on Feb 13 2012 - 13:46, said:

Boosted in that it hasn't dropped yet. Penetration values in-game are at the muzzle. (or the mantlet seeing as that's the actual spawn point)

MG port on a Jagdtiger has no armour.

 HOTA_CHATON, on Feb 13 2012 - 13:46, said:

Physics in real life. This is a game however and WoT has some very odd qualities, this being one of them.

Apparently the MG Port is somewhere between 65 and 108 mm armour. 100mm seems likely.

We sure that Easy 8 isn't shooting your top armour, through the crew hatches?

If not, then, yes, MG port.

There was a fix made to the KT's frontal armor hitbox made back in beta.  When they made that change (which made the armor much stronger) I do not believe that that was done to the frontal armor of the JT.