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dllu #321 Posted Mar 04 2012 - 07:44

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View PostCutthroatlemur, on Mar 04 2012 - 07:43, said:

Here's a cleaner rendering of my tank.  I posted links yesterday.
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My god, a chrome gun!

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I love leopards so much and I have designed "Leopard Ausf.F" at first. Its designe was based on Leopard, Panther Ausf.F, and E-50. But it seemed not so different from current leopard except turret and rear hull. So I changed it as tank destroyer. Are tank destroyers allowed in this contest?
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Jagdleopard, is the most high-speed tank destroyer in germany.
Its development history can be traced back to 1943. In 3 January, VK16.02 "Leopard" light tank project was accepted and its mass production was launched. Thanks to low ground pressure, it was highly maneuverable even if it in crosscountry, and its weight capacity was bit better than PanzerIII. This vehicles were very succeeded, and  high command decided to increase the production number of Leopards.
In accordance with the changes in the battles, many modify was done for Leopards, form Leopard Ausf.D, to Leopard Ausf.G. But in 1944, its firepower became obsolete. To solve this problem, firepower improve project was launched. By this project, Leopard Ausf.F and Jagdleopard were developed. Leopard Ausf.F armed with 7.5cm L/48 KwK40 and Jagdleopard had 7.5cm L/70 PaK42. Jagdleopards were produced by many company and its total pruduction was only 415.
Jagdleopard is turret-less tank destroyer. It was based on Leopard Asuf.F, so its basic construction is same to Leopard Ausf.F. The power plant is HL157P30 turbocharged V-12 gasoline engine. Which provides 650hp. By OG 55-11-77 semi automatic transmission and 65cm width track, its mobility is still greater than any other german vehicles, despite its weight was raised to 24.1t.
The superstructure was build up on Leopard Ausf.F's hull, thus its side armor has  angle different from early Leopards. Hull armor is 60/35/20 mm, which was increased from Ausf.G. Superstructure armor is same to hull. The protection level of frontal 60mm/55degree armor is same to 104 mm vertical armor, which is enough to allied tank's 76mm guns. 5mm schuerzen was attached to side of the hull to protect against Anti Tank rifles.
The number of crew is 4, Commander/Loader, Gunner, Driver and Radio operator. Its internal space was not so big for 4-men. So, almost all of part the gun was placed in bulge. By this placement, the length from gun trunnion axis to back armor is same to VK30.02 tank, it was very minimum to handle it. The gun was PaK42, which is still enough to enemy tanks at this time except heavies. To help the small capacity of recoil cylinder, double baffle muzzle break was attached. Its optical sight was Sfl.Zf.1. The elevation angle was +15/-5 degree, and traverse angle was +-12.5 degree. A MG34 machinegun was placed on the right of the gun, and sometimes Anti-Aircraft MG42 was equipped on the cupola. As other armament, Nahverteidigungswaffe (Close Defense Weapon) was placed on the front right of the roof.
One of its special characteristic is optical devices. The driver's periscope can rotate few degrees to help his viewing. For this device,  driver and radio operator's hatches are placed asymmetry. The side direct viewing krappe for Driver/Radio operator were replaced to periscope to improve its protection. Unlike other german tank destroyers, Commander was given his own cupola for scouting. It provides very good viewing ranges and angle, so greatly helpful in offensive use.
Other part of the vehicles are almost same to Leopard Ausf.F. Winter heating engine grill and anti-flare exhaust pipe were common features in later model Leopards. FG 1250 infrared device could be placed on the cupola. For this device, right gepaek kasten of the rear was replaced to electric power unit.

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Great looking TD!  What CAD did you use to model it?

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View Postdllu, on Mar 04 2012 - 07:44, said:

My god, a chrome gun!
My god, a tank made of a brass texture that won't render right!
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guys how do you can put photos in this forum, because I can't upload it from my pitcures file, I have to use the URL from internet but I can't just put the photos from facebook it won't be permitted. So guys can you let met know how to put photos in this forum? :huh:

Da7K #326 Posted Mar 04 2012 - 12:41

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upload it in imageshack.com works for everyone

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View PostDa7K, on Mar 04 2012 - 12:41, said:

upload it in imageshack.com works for everyone

thanks :Smile_great:

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View Postarisaka38, on Mar 04 2012 - 07:48, said:

Jagdleopard
I really, really like the design, though I have to wonder: is there space enough in the superstructure for the gun breech to recoil when firing?

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Heres the description of my tank.
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sorry I cant show pics but they're all hand drawn, and it looks pretty much like it sounds anyway.

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By the way, VK designations go like this:

VK (tonnage).(model)

So the VK 2801 (28.01) would be 28 ton class, 1st model. Your VK 11854 would be 118 tons and the 54th model... would that even be a scout tank?

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View PostExaltion, on Mar 04 2012 - 14:21, said:

By the way, VK designations go like this:

VK (tonnage).(model)

So the VK 2801 (28.01) would be 28 ton class, 1st model. Your VK 11854 would be 118 tons and the 54th model... would that even be a scout tank?
my bad. Im not that good at naming things alright. If it makes you feel better its a secret project and its been applied a 98 52 shift cipher

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Did we put the history of the tank in the email or in a doc file that we attach to the email?

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View PostLert, on Mar 04 2012 - 12:57, said:

I really, really like the design, though I have to wonder: is there space enough in the superstructure for the gun breech to recoil when firing?
My thoughts as well.  If there is, the breech of the gun has to be against the back wall during recoil, which has to be severe due to the necesarily small buffers/recouperators.  This then begs the question - where does the spent casing go?

I think maybe I would have taken the slope of the driver's plate and extended that all the way to the roofline, like a Jagdpanther - more room for the gun and might allow for dedicated loader.

It looks fantastic, by the way.

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View PostThekebecer, on Mar 04 2012 - 15:51, said:

Did we put the history of the tank in the email or in a doc file that we attach to the email?
I attached the doc file, the JPG for the three-view and 2 scans of my development sketches.
All of the file names started with my WoT game name.

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i finished my design. i cant bring the picture but here is the text:

History: when Germany and French started fighting none of Germany’s heavy tanks could survive the French tanks speed (French tanks in world of tanks are really fast). Germany knew that they would need a tank that would be “anti-French”. They knew that the tank will have to have certain qualities which are:  an armor that is hard for French shells to penetrate but not too heavy, the gun will be big, it will have to have a decent radio, faster than E-100, and have a good amount of shells. Like that they came to design a mix of E-100 and E-75 called E-90. The E-90 stopped being used after War World 2 in 1945.
GUN: The E-90 has the 15 cm KwK 44 L/38 that belongs to the E-100. The reason the German scientist mounted that gun on the E-90 is because, French armor is very weak and the advantage of having a big gun is the best against the French.
SUSPENSION: The E-90 ketten was designed especially for the E-90 so it can turn fast and still carry a lot of tons. The suspension of E-90 helps him against the French for it can turn fast and react fast to surprising attacks from a different side.
TURRET: Like the suspension for E-90 the turret was designed especially for E-90 too. It was billed so it can turn fast and French shells would bounce of it and do little damage if the shells do penetrate.
RADIO: E-90’s radio is very important to it. The FUG 14 has the reach for a long distance. The reason that it’s important to E-90 so much is that E-90’s position should be at front lines and it’s billed to work as team. And because it’s at front lines it needs to detect the tanks coming and be the first one to strike.
ENGINE: The engine of the E-90 is the Maus engine. It’s a big engine that can carry 189 ton at 20/km so if you put it on a 110 ton tank you can pretty much know what will happen. This giant engine was mounted to E-90 so it can reach the speed of French tanks. The engine also lets him carry big armor and heavy objects E-90’s engine is one of his most important items. That also explains the big armor on the back and all things connected to the engine.
EQUIPMENT: E-90’s equipment is just as any other tanks. It has a tent at the back for camping, all kinds of digging tools, and a fire extinguisher. It has inside the turret a place for explosives such as grenades, smoke grenades, even some guns, first aid kit, and a repair kit.  

E-90
Gun: 15 cm KwK 44 L/38
Suspension: E-90 ketten (load limit-115 ton, 30 deg/sec)
Turret: E-90-Turm Ausf. B (25 deg/sec)
Radio: FUG 14(780 m range)
Engine: MB507
Hull armor: Front- 190 mm, Sides- 110 mm, Back-140 mm
Turret armor: Front- 200, Side-130, Rear-125
Weight- 110 ton       View range- 410 m        Maximum speed- 60/km       shells: 42

Crew:
1. Commander
2. Driver
3. Gunner
4. Radio operator
5. Loader
Secondary machine guns: MG 42 at front, MG 34 near the gun.


i realy hope they will like it.

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View Posturi135531, on Mar 04 2012 - 17:17, said:

E-90
The speed concerns me because the Maus engine made it go only 13 km/h, not 20 km/h.

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Finalized mine. Surprised that, I'm not seeing many other lower tier/older vehicle ideas.

Gpz-40 (Großpanzer) Infantry Tank 'Ocelot'

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View PostKazen101, on Mar 04 2012 - 21:28, said:

Finalized mine. Surprised that, I'm not seeing many other lower tier/older vehicle ideas.

Gpz-40 (Großpanzer) Infantry Tank 'Ocelot'

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I was actually planning on changing my tank which looked like a Panzer 38t that was featured in the Fan Art Spotlight for this contest if that counts

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View PostCutthroatlemur, on Mar 04 2012 - 08:12, said:

Great looking TD!  What CAD did you use to model it?
Thanks :)
Basically I used GMAX to modelling it, and I've rendered it by 3ds MAX.

View PostLert, on Mar 04 2012 - 12:57, said:

I really, really like the design, though I have to wonder: is there space enough in the superstructure for the gun breech to recoil when firing?
Well, I had noticed that problem, so I've compared its internal space with Panther. The length from muzzle to turret/superstructure rear plate is as same as Panther, thus it can be mounted. But it is still not so large space, concentric recoil cylinder like M24 chaffee will be needed. Also powerful balancing mechanism is required because the gun trunnion axis is quite off-centered back and forth.
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View PostsPzAbt505, on Mar 04 2012 - 16:28, said:

I think maybe I would have taken the slope of the driver's plate and extended that all the way to the roofline, like a Jagdpanther - more room for the gun and might allow for dedicated loader.

It looks fantastic, by the way.
Why I made it like this style was just design problem. Firstly I tried the style what you said. But it seemed nothing more than small Jagdpanther. That's not so fun.
I didn't tried make it to really effective vehicle, but I tried to make it look fantastical. Because you thought it looks fantastic, It might be succeeded :)

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Ok, that actually looks good. Makes one wonder how cramped the crew is though and where ammo is stored.