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[TommyL]

I have tried both but still can't decide which is the better gun for the lorry. A person whose opinion I value said that the 100 bounces more than the 2nd 90mm. What are others running?

[HOTA_CHATON]

Stat wise, it is the 100.  Try them both and get a feel for which you like is the best thing to do.  It's like this, I have the KV-3 I don't like the 100MM but use
the 107MM predomenantly as it is a better gun for me.  Some say 100, some say 107 but you need to choose whats right for your style of play.  Don't be afraid to
try all the guns of a tank out, you will learn, trust me on that.

Keep on playing, and in short order you will decide.  Watch your battle stats, your credits, your EXP, and see which is better with what.  That will tell you the tale.

[Troupa]

Use the 90mm.  The 100mm cost 4x as much per shell, has less DPM and a horrid reload speed.  Only for CWs would the extra 30mm of pen be any use.

[TommyL]

The only reason I ask was that I bounced a 100mm of the BACK  of an A-20 yesterday and was like wtf?  I think I'll remount the 90 for a bit and try it again.

[Antosha_]

Some very good players do very well with the 100 - but I can't stomach a 49 sec reload, I went back to the 35 sec reload 90mm myself, knowing I trade some canister damage and penetration to do so.

[Phantombari78]

90 bounces a lot more than the 100, but the 49 second reload requires very strategic thinking at all times.

[ProcellaDraco]

The 100mm will solo every tier 9 tank in the game on average and even kill half the tier 10 heavies if there is a lucky damage roll with one drum.  At tier 8.  On a medium tank.  In 18 seconds.  It has the second best Damage per shot of any tier 8 medium gun (the never-used 122mm on the T44 beats it) and has by far the best penetration value among the mediums.  It doesn't even have to flank a tier 9 tank to get through its armor, it can just sit behind a friendly heavy and unload death right through the lower glacis without fail.

The gun is the sole reason why the Lorraine is the one french tank that is grossly overpowered, why would you not use it?

[Agent_Smithx2]

100mm all the way. the extra pen and damage at tier 8 is felt, and it can deal with type59's with ease, and you can even miss 1-2 shots and still kill it, but with the 90 you need to make all 6 connect and you also risk a bounce

[strngplyr]

The 90 is fine. In 72 battles so far maybe 10 have had tier 9 or 10 in them. Tier 8 is almost always top. This thing gets cake for MM, the 14-15s you save in reload time on the 90 is more valuable than the extra 18 penetration and 60 damage.

You'll also save about 750 credits per shell. I don't give a damn about ammo prices but some people without premium might. I just simply the the 90 is a superior weapon on the Lorraine. The BatChat is obviously different with its insane reload time.

[strngplyr]

Agent_Smithx2, on Feb 26 2012 - 17:56, said:

100mm all the way. the extra pen and damage at tier 8 is felt, and it can deal with type59's with ease, and you can even miss 1-2 shots and still kill it, but with the 90 you need to make all 6 connect and you also risk a bounce

You can penetrate Type 59's with ease with 212 pen, just don't aim at the smallest part of the tank, its turret. You'll be fine. You should also never worry about being 1 on 1 with a type 59 either, follow your team and support them, if you miss 1 or 2 shots they can easily clean up.

[N00BSAIB0T]

I haven't tried the 2nd version of the 90mm yet, I skipped over that entirely. I went straight to the 100mm, and I love that gun despite its 50 second reload. Seems like I can hurt almost anything. You just have to be careful about your shots and pick targets of opportunity. I always inform my team that I'm reloading as well, that helps.

[hospiciano0]

90 mm is enough for lorraine. 100 has a very slow reload and the 3.3 secs between shot really hurts.
212 pen at tier 8 is wonderful.

[Blacksails]

I ran the 90mm for a while, and did just okay, hovering around 50% win rate.  Just came out of my first battle with the 100mm...mother of god.  Seven kills later, I'm sold.  For me, its mainly that extra damage per shot the allowed me to kill off a few Lowes with one shot less than what I would have needed with the 90mm.  Not to mention I could shoot mostly anywhere and pen.

I have seen the light, and it comes from the tip of a 100mm barrel.

[cmcgillen]

100mm all the way. The 100 has a long reload time but it requires fewer shots to finish off tanks. Too many times I found myself firing off my last shot on a tank I had crippled, only for it to still have 15-20%. The collective 60 extra damage per shot means you gain 360 damage per drum. Thats 27-28% of an IS-3. Have fun reloading your 90mm while you flee that IS-3 with about 400hp left.

[BlindShot]

As a tier 8 medium, you will have to fight against type 59 in many battles, therefore 100mm is better than 90mm cos it has no problem penetrating type 59 front and you can finish it within a drum.

[Cocoa_Jin]

Im anxiously anticipating the 100mm...I have experienced on too many occasions the difficulty of the 90mm guns to in finish off a high tier opponents in one can. The inevitable bounce, penetration or critical for no damages makes the reduced damage per hit a liability.

Im better off getting the kill in one can of the 100mm, than hoping I can survive the shorter reload time of the 90mm while my heavily wounded target is still able to shoot at my feeble hull.

My goal isnt to "run n' gun" all over the map, the shorter down time of the 90mm isnt necessarily a perk if I cant seal the deal in one can.  

Frankly, the light armor of the Frenchies all but gaurantee the reloading of any can while under fire is death.  So priority number one is insuring the enemy is a smoking hulk before I have to reload...the 100mm seems that it will do a better job of making sure the target is dead in one can.

[Tarsas]

Cocoa_Jin, on Mar 01 2012 - 01:05, said:

Im anxiously anticipating the 100mm...I have experienced on too many occasions the difficulty of the 90mm guns to in finish off a high tier opponents in one can. The inevitable bounce, penetration or critical for no damages makes the reduced damage per hit a liability.

Im better off getting the kill in one can of the 100mm, than hoping I can survive the shorter reload time of the 90mm while my heavily wounded target is still able to shoot at my feeble hull.

My goal isnt to "run n' gun" all over the map, the shorter down time of the 90mm isnt necessarily a perk if I cant seal the deal in one can.  

Frankly, the light armor of the Frenchies all but gaurantee the reloading of any can while under fire is death.  So priority number one is insuring the enemy is a smoking hulk before I have to reload...the 100mm seems that it will do a better job of making sure the target is dead in one can.

Go with the 90mm. I've tested both guns in my lorraine and I prefer the 90. The 3.3 second time in between reloads doesn't sound like it will hurt much but in reality it usually cost me large numbers of hitpoints oftentimes. The reload time is also a BIG difference, which is a handicap you will notice. I said the same things you did to a clan mate about the 100 and in the end the 90 was a better choice.

[Collingwood]

I advise the 90mm - It is a beast of a gun and you get 212 pen which si the best for any tier 8 medium and 160 from the 100mm isn't enough - Though the extra damage is nice

[strngplyr]

Collingwood, on Mar 01 2012 - 12:09, said:

I advise the 90mm - It is a beast of a gun and you get 212 pen which si the best for any tier 8 medium and 160 from the 100mm isn't enough - Though the extra damage is nice

The 100 gets 232 pen but has a 13 second longer reload time as well as a longer delay between shots.

[Grivyn]

On paper it suggests the 90mm, in practice its a no brainer to go with the 100mm. The extra damage per shot is HUGE this means the difference between an enemy getting to return fire or being a smoldering wreck. I've had numerous encounters where the Lorraine's speed and agility has allowed me to re-position behind an enemy tank and finish him before his turret has turned to face me that simply wouldn't have been possible with the 90mm.

Putting it bluntly the 100mm significantly out performs the 90mm in actual combat situations.