Complaint System Guide
Ozium
Feb 27 2012
"Simply put, the complaint review is based on daily, consolidated statistics. Game masters open a daily complaint list and by sorting find the most odious players to be penalized in the first place. Game masters check validity of complaints with appropriate interfaces and note complaints as valid or false. As a result of this operation odious users receive a penalty (this will involve supporting backyard interfaces), and informants will have their ranking changed."
so it's a waste of our time and just a blankie to pacify us unless the scum gets reported by everybody multiple times and the most of them will fly under the radar and not be punished...
and why is there no afk option???
so it's a waste of our time and just a blankie to pacify us unless the scum gets reported by everybody multiple times and the most of them will fly under the radar and not be punished...
and why is there no afk option???
Pathiean
Feb 27 2012
Joe_B, on Feb 27 2012 - 14:16, said:
What is it with you guys that want to hang those having what is often completely out of their control?
I have seen people in chat berate someone for being AFK who obviously never loaded (name dark grey). Do you think they are happy about their circumstance?
Other times someone just loads in slowly. There are people in the first 30 seconds of battle ripping someone a new one. They might have a piss poor connection or junk computer... do you think they are happy about their situation.
Then there are the people like me that has their game crash/internet blip disconnect on them from time to time. It is rare but happens. There is nothing I can't stand more than someone calling me every name under the sun simply because my game crashed on me.
Are there people that are gaming the system, sure. But it is not as many as you "hang the AFKers" make it out to be.
I have played A LOT of battles. I see few if any consistent AFKers.
Just play the game and be happy that you "never" have any problems that make you less than effective for the team.
I have seen people in chat berate someone for being AFK who obviously never loaded (name dark grey). Do you think they are happy about their circumstance?
Other times someone just loads in slowly. There are people in the first 30 seconds of battle ripping someone a new one. They might have a piss poor connection or junk computer... do you think they are happy about their situation.
Then there are the people like me that has their game crash/internet blip disconnect on them from time to time. It is rare but happens. There is nothing I can't stand more than someone calling me every name under the sun simply because my game crashed on me.
Are there people that are gaming the system, sure. But it is not as many as you "hang the AFKers" make it out to be.
I have played A LOT of battles. I see few if any consistent AFKers.
Just play the game and be happy that you "never" have any problems that make you less than effective for the team.
Im sorry but its like you are not playing the same game as most of us. I honestly cant count the amount of people I see afk each week. They sit on the spawn point almost always until the match is just about over, or until someone shoots at them. They do not contribute to the teams effort and in a lot of cases these are not low lv tanks, but normally they sit around the top of the teams list. These people are for the most part pure leaches.
I understand that RL happens, I understand the game may crash (heck it happens to me once in a while) But I have always been able to get back into the game to take part. If this were just one or two cases here and there I would not have such a big problem with it, But this is a issue that happens constantly. I would say I have had 1 in 7 matches the past few weeks where I have had people going afk like this. There should be a way to report afk players. Since its bases on a rating scale if they get enough reports then action should be taken. If they do not get many, then there is no harm done. Good rule of thumb to follow is if you have to afk every few min, EVERY single match, maybe you should try playing the game another time when your not so busy.
Joe_B
Feb 27 2012
My concern is if you add an AFK or similar then those that have the issues I describe would be reported by those that can't help but whine about every little thing. They get mad at everyone all the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
Jason1138
Feb 27 2012
"Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game"
if you haven't been on a team where someone tk'd multiple friendly tanks for laughs then you haven't been playing very long. i've been on teams where 1 guy with a derp killed 4 friendlies and reporting people like that isn't "e-peen" its just common sense
if you haven't been on a team where someone tk'd multiple friendly tanks for laughs then you haven't been playing very long. i've been on teams where 1 guy with a derp killed 4 friendlies and reporting people like that isn't "e-peen" its just common sense
RufusLeaking
Feb 27 2012
Snipe4Food, on Feb 27 2012 - 13:46, said:
We honestly need a way to report players for being afk. In my opinion that is worse than someone who gives away the location of teammates. It can completely ruin a game, especially if the afk person is a high tier tank.
It is aggravating, but I would guess some AFK's are valid. Remember this is a game and players may have sudden issues come up that have a higher priority.
Tracer001
Feb 27 2012
Joe_B, on Feb 27 2012 - 19:31, said:
My concern is if you add an AFK or similar then those that have the issues I describe would be reported by those that can't help but whine about every little thing. They get mad at everyone all the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
I full heartedly agree. I usually load within the first 30 seconds but there are occasions where I don't load for 2 minutes, a few at 5 minutes and even one at 10. I am not AFK, I am sitting at my keyboard cursing WOT for not letting me in. At the 10 minute mark I seem to load right at the point where I hear an explosion and the nit wit saying we're done for everyone get out. Personally I too think this is only a game and people need to relax. And the comment about teamwork, its a public server for gods sake, how much team work can you expect. Nothing I hate more than seeing my entire team heading for one side and get themselves all killed.
Also I don't like the idea of being able to complain against someone with bad play. Again, its a game not real life, this is an arcade game at that. If someone plays bad my only hope is perhaps they learned something or will over coming battles. This complaint system worried me that it will be abused by the type of players who complain when you are not fighting the way they want you too. I have camped the base before just to mix things up and when no one hangs back, but in all cases I move from side to side engaging targets and have saved the base a number of times. Sometimes the best strategy is not to all rush for that choke point in El Haluf and die trying to climb the hill in a heavy by 3 or 4 arty raining grief down on you. Sometimes its better to snipe for a bit, then either rush or defend.
I'm very much a team player, I tend to follow larger tanks or big TD's in order to watch their back/flank. Or hope that when I drive my tier 8 I can get the same kind of support. If I see a hole I try to fill it. If I make a bad decision I shouldn't be allowed to have a complaint against me. Sometimes crap happens. If you want to call me names go ahead, I won't complain against anyone who calls me a name, I couldn't care less. As long as I did my best to help my team get that win.
I am more of a serious player, and am not the best nor worst, just average. Just want to have a good time. See you all out on the battlefield.
Zekoo
Feb 27 2012
I agree with Joe_B, i have the very rare occasional blue screen sometimes in World of Tanks, once every maybe 100 battles, and everytime i come back in i have an group of players whining at me for being an AFK noob etc,
I also live in New Zealand and so our net is not the most stable in the world and dissconects do happen, my PC is way over spec for this game, but you can't control random glitches in your internet connection or computer, i could just see people abusing an AFK report system,
Yes there are a lot of AFKers and yes they are really annoying but it might be better if WG implimented some sort of system that records if you don't press any keys in a battle for multiple battles, say if someone does 100 battles, but for 80 or so of those battle there are very few key presses, and little movement
Then it would flag the account for WG to investigate or something like that
Snipe4Food is the perfect example of how a system like this could go wrong, as he/she immediatly assumes that if you didn't load in or you crash you have an underspec computer?
I also live in New Zealand and so our net is not the most stable in the world and dissconects do happen, my PC is way over spec for this game, but you can't control random glitches in your internet connection or computer, i could just see people abusing an AFK report system,
Yes there are a lot of AFKers and yes they are really annoying but it might be better if WG implimented some sort of system that records if you don't press any keys in a battle for multiple battles, say if someone does 100 battles, but for 80 or so of those battle there are very few key presses, and little movement
Then it would flag the account for WG to investigate or something like that
Snipe4Food is the perfect example of how a system like this could go wrong, as he/she immediatly assumes that if you didn't load in or you crash you have an underspec computer?
Gherig
Feb 27 2012
If a tank has loaded from the start of the game, and has not moved a milimeter (either in position or his gun is still pointed down) and remains this way the entire game, then there should be a way to report them. I have seen games go the full 15 min and this happen, only to join the next game and low and behold the exact same tank is in the next game doing the same thing.
if you go LD or desktop, then it would be a rare occasion and the system, even reported wont generate a "action" on you to investigate, but the above described scenario happens all to often now and has to stop. There has to be a way to report that.
if you go LD or desktop, then it would be a rare occasion and the system, even reported wont generate a "action" on you to investigate, but the above described scenario happens all to often now and has to stop. There has to be a way to report that.
rtp099
Feb 27 2012
If they are ranking a player based on complaints, then where I can see the ranking I have for my account. I have reported a couple of players for blatent afk or unfair play but I never know if anyone is actually checking up on the complaints. Now I find out that I'm being ranked based on such complaints and I have no idea what my ranking is nor how valid it should be. If a player is being ranked, then the player should have access to such information as well as the ability to find out of they have complaints against them. Otherwise, it seems rather arbitrary and useless.
Stieger
Feb 27 2012
Pathiean, on Feb 27 2012 - 18:56, said:
Im sorry but its like you are not playing the same game as most of us. I honestly cant count the amount of people I see afk each week. They sit on the spawn point almost always until the match is just about over, or until someone shoots at them. They do not contribute to the teams effort and in a lot of cases these are not low lv tanks, but normally they sit around the top of the teams list. These people are for the most part pure leaches.
I understand that RL happens, I understand the game may crash (heck it happens to me once in a while) But I have always been able to get back into the game to take part. If this were just one or two cases here and there I would not have such a big problem with it, But this is a issue that happens constantly. I would say I have had 1 in 7 matches the past few weeks where I have had people going afk like this. There should be a way to report afk players. Since its bases on a rating scale if they get enough reports then action should be taken. If they do not get many, then there is no harm done. Good rule of thumb to follow is if you have to afk every few min, EVERY single match, maybe you should try playing the game another time when your not so busy.
I understand that RL happens, I understand the game may crash (heck it happens to me once in a while) But I have always been able to get back into the game to take part. If this were just one or two cases here and there I would not have such a big problem with it, But this is a issue that happens constantly. I would say I have had 1 in 7 matches the past few weeks where I have had people going afk like this. There should be a way to report afk players. Since its bases on a rating scale if they get enough reports then action should be taken. If they do not get many, then there is no harm done. Good rule of thumb to follow is if you have to afk every few min, EVERY single match, maybe you should try playing the game another time when your not so busy.
Stieger
Feb 27 2012
Joe_B, on Feb 27 2012 - 19:31, said:
My concern is if you add an AFK or similar then those that have the issues I describe would be reported by those that can't help but whine about every little thing. They get mad at everyone all the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
Personally, I have yet to even think about reporting anyone. It's just a game. I dislike losing but I am not going to let some minor little issue cause me to explode in rage. My epeen would not be boosted by being on the Hall of Fame leaderboard for whatever stats is being ruined by team failure.
I am an average player enjoying a game.
If you are ultra competetive and can't stand to lose and have to be able to strut your epeen stats no matter what... a team game is not for you because someone will find a way to let you down most of the time.
personally if the player can not contritube to the game then they shouldnt play people like yourself more than likely use this type of excuse its a team game! if they dont want to partake with other players then dont, imagine if they were in real combat then they went afk???
Jason1138
Feb 27 2012
if you're saying 1 game in 1000 you can't load for 10 min, then 1 report per 1000 games shouldn't really hurt you, right?
Zekoo
Feb 27 2012
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if you're saying 1 game in 1000 you can't load for 10 min, then 1 report per 1000 games shouldn't really hurt you, right?
This is semi true, although i didn't say 1 in ever 1000 but you may have been refering to another post, the thing to consider though is that more than one player in that one game may report you, you could get eight of the fifteen players report you for being afk in that one match, thats eight ticks, not one
It also sounds like most of you want players that get many AFK reports to be banned, which means if that happens reporting a player that just owned you for being AFK is going to be the most common picked report,
AFK players are annoying as hell, especially if they are the high teirs, but usually i find when i have an AFK'er on my team, we lose the game so badly i think to myself, even if he was not AFK then we would have likely still lost, as people who AFK usually suck ass at the game anyway
AlienInvader
Feb 28 2012
I usually do not move for the first maybe 5-10 sec to see how the team spreads out. I've been called (and I assume reported) as being afk or a bot many times.
mizaralcor
Feb 28 2012
Snipe4Food, on Feb 27 2012 - 14:44, said:
if your rig can't even handle the game then why would you even try to play it? A person who can't load, loads in late all the time, or has such a low fps they can't play is detrimental to the team and should not be playing a game that requires teamplay. There are minimum specs listed on the website for a reason.
Connection can also be a problem. And no, getting better connection may not always be a viable option, for example due to geographical distance to the actual physical server. There are parts of the world where due to physical distance to the location of the NA server, connection lags and sometimes disconnects can happen somewhat regularly. And for most of these players, moving to any of the other two servers is not always an option.
I agree that if somebody purposefully AFK just to leech exp repeatedly on regular basis, the player may deserve a ban punishment. I also agree that playing with insufficient computer or connection makes you a liability onto the team in a multiplayer game, but barring them from playing the game itself due to bans is not really a right thing to do.
RomuIus
Feb 28 2012
Snipe4Food, on Feb 27 2012 - 13:46, said:
We honestly need a way to report players for being afk. In my opinion that is worse than someone who gives away the location of teammates. It can completely ruin a game, especially if the afk person is a high tier tank.
This.
Please add AFK to the complaints list. Or combine it with Unfair play. Thats how I complain about AFKers atm(four or five min afk is just too long), though highly suspect they're not getting penalized in any way...
Hawat
Feb 28 2012
RufusLeaking, on Feb 27 2012 - 20:07, said:
It is aggravating, but I would guess some AFK's are valid. Remember this is a game and players may have sudden issues come up that have a higher priority.
I do agree that some AFKs are going to be excusable. That is the nature of real life. However, there will be a standard set by the GMs. If it happens a couple of times a week, I doubt any action would be taken. If it happens multiple times per day, then that's another story. The system will not punish you for actual, legitimate AFKs. I'm convinced of that.
Until a moderator can clarify this topic for me, I'm going to continue reporting connected (non-gray) team members that are AFK for most of the match as "Bot". It's leeching and I don't like it. If this is incorrect, then please tell me. If it is not correct, then could we please look at adding an AFK report for the complaint system?
solid_snake1
Feb 28 2012
All i care for is the Team Killing complaint, I don't complaint about enemy players.
solid_snake1
Feb 28 2012
I don't thank they will banned players just because others complaints, they will see the complaints and watch the player to see if the complaint is true or not, they will not banned someone just because your say so.
They only banned players that use bots and cheats,also hackers can't tell who is hacking but hackers will also be banned, this is how it should be.
They only banned players that use bots and cheats,also hackers can't tell who is hacking but hackers will also be banned, this is how it should be.


